Paizo, please let me jaws strike people for health.


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


If I have an option that heals or gives temporary hp on a strike, the coolest option (in my entirely subjective opinion) is for that to be on a jaws strike. Kholos with Crunch, bestial mutagen aficionados, awakened leeches, dhampirs- they all appreciate the theming.

We're three for three on that getting shut down, though.

First off, the remaster took Glutton's Jaws and swapped it from giving you a jaws strike granting temp HP, making it make some separate jaws. Good for Sorcerer, bad for my weird multiclass Thaumaturge builds. Fair enough- it's on the Sorcerer, so it should be good for Sorcerer.

Exemplar's Barrow's Edge is piercing or slashing, but it's weapons only so it won't work with jaws or claws.

And, most recently, an item called "Leeching Fangs" is also weapon-only, so you can't use it to have actual leeching fangs.

(Semi-related, dhampirs didn't get their uncommon blood-drinking feat for temp HP reprinted in the remaster. That one isn't actually tied to a jaws strike, but it's in the same ballpark.)


It sounds like there's a lot of room for expansion here:

  • Although the old glutton's jaws got removed, that creates an opening for a feat shared among certain ancestries with a fangs or jaws Strike that lets you gain temporary Hit Points. Taste Blood is probably a bit too specific to the dhampir to suit this purpose.
  • Several of the Exemplar's weapon ikons could be extended to unarmed attacks, like Barrow's Edge.
  • Just like whetstones grant bonuses to weapons, there's perhaps room for consumables that grant bonuses to unarmed attacks, in this case healing to fangs and jaws.

  • Grand Archive

    Agreed. They should be more permissive with allowing Unarmed attacks, unless there is a really good reason not to.

    Excluding some Monk Stances (1D8 Agile Finesse) and Battleforms, Unarmed attacks are actually on the weak side. So maybe only allow Ancestry based unarmed Attacks, if that is the concern?


    Christopher#2411504 wrote:

    Agreed. They should be more permissive with allowing Unarmed attacks, unless there is a really good reason not to.

    Excluding some Monk Stances (1D8 Agile Finesse) and Battleforms, Unarmed attacks are actually on the weak side. So maybe only allow Ancestry based unarmed Attacks, if that is the concern?

    Yeah. I mean we do have some Ancestry Feats that are Universal (the Fey ones and the ones from Season of Ghosts). It shouldn't be impossible to print one that requires your Ancestry to give you a bite attack and gives you Temporary HP or heals you when you hit with it.

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