How can I emulate gold-manipulating magic in PF2e?

[HedonisticAspie]

I was trying to find an archetype or maybe some feats that would represent magic that allows you to manipulate gold, but so far I haven't found anything other than magic weapons that I guess make their own ammunition out of gold.

It's fine if I can find something that focuses on manipulating any type of metal as I can just change the flavor to be gold. It's also fine with there is no archetype or list of feats and I just have to find the spells, just so long as they exist for me to find.

[YuriP]

What do you mean by “manipulate gold”?

Is it like a Metal Kineticist using Base/Extended Kinesis?

[Castilliano]

Depends on how you want to manipulate it and whether you want to manipulate a gold-looking substance or gold itself. Since gold's tied to wealth which is directly tied to PC power, the game doesn't toy around with gold so much. Downtime's primary emphasis is its effect on one's wealth, as measured in gold. As in, you won't be able to manipulate gold in any way that makes your PC wealthier than a PC who doesn't (with all else being equal).

There's Needle Darts where gold works fine as its metal, but most of the spells which create or alter metal exclude precious metals. But if you just want the semblance of gold, I think most GMs would let your metallic spells be golden. I'd go so far as to reflavor most any solid creation as gold-like, but not in any sense that would trick people (which is another common thing w/ created objects in PF2, people can tell they're worthless so PCs can't gain wealth that way).

If I were to build a gold-manipulator I'd go with a Metal Kineticist. It has abilities that let you manipulate and shape gold itself (and other metals of course) and maybe your GM will let your metallic creations look like gold (though again, not in any sense that increases wealth or tricks onlookers).

[Powers128]

A metal kineticist with plate in treasure can make all their abilities plated in gold. Throw in earth and you could be blasting with gemstones as well. Could be a fun concept for a hypothetically rich character who literally throws money at his problems. And it works

[Paul Zagieboylo]

It might be worth pointing out that any attempt to actually manipulate the currency system of Golarion (e.g. counterfeiting or adulterating coinage) will draw the ire of the Church of Abadar (and probably Abadar himself) VERY quickly. There's a reason the currency has remained stable and compatible, worldwide, for millennia, and that reason is Abadar. He's well known to show up in person to smite counterfeiters with the whole lightning-bolt-from-beyond / wide-angle-disintegration-beam / squad-of-hostile-servitors schtick.

If you just want to look bling as bling can be, yeah, Plate in Treasure is the way to go. But it specifically precludes being able to use it to increase your actual wealth, both for game-balance reasons and because of the wrath of Abadar.

[HedonisticAspie]

YuriP wrote:

What do you mean by “manipulate gold”?

Is it like a Metal Kineticist using Base/Extended Kinesis?

Castilliano wrote:

Depends on how you want to manipulate it and whether you want to manipulate a gold-looking substance or gold itself. Since gold's tied to wealth which is directly tied to PC power, the game doesn't toy around with gold so much. Downtime's primary emphasis is its effect on one's wealth, as measured in gold. As in, you won't be able to manipulate gold in any way that makes your PC wealthier than a PC who doesn't (with all else being equal).

There's Needle Darts where gold works fine as its metal, but most of the spells which create or alter metal exclude precious metals. But if you just want the semblance of gold, I think most GMs would let your metallic spells be golden. I'd go so far as to reflavor most any solid creation as gold-like, but not in any sense that would trick people (which is another common thing w/ created objects in PF2, people can tell they're worthless so PCs can't gain wealth that way).

If I were to build a gold-manipulator I'd go with a Metal Kineticist. It has abilities that let you manipulate and shape gold itself (and other metals of course) and maybe your GM will let your metallic creations look like gold (though again, not in any sense that increases wealth or tricks onlookers).

I'm making a dwarf that has gold jewelry in his beard and I want him to be able to have it become malleable and morph it into other shapes, perhaps even has weapons should he have enough gold on him to make something of the proper size. I'm fine if it isn't considered to be done with magic or spells since we can flavor things how we want, so Kineticist might be the right starting grounds but I'll still take other suggestions. Not sure what is means for me to have a gold plate, are we talking about armor with gold plating? Sorry, my brain defaulted to Pokémon with Arceus Held Items like Kineticists needed a Plate item like some other classes have items unique to them.

Currency isn't an issue: this is a homebrew world much heavier on trade than on a global currency with a dwarven culture that can easily obtain things crafted of gold.

[YuriP]

Probably your only option is metal kineticists. Cantrips like Prestidigitation is too weak to change its shape and Needle Darts is attack focused.

[The Raven Black]

I would suggest using a weapon that you can legitimately tangle with the beard and then put a Shifting Rune on it.

If a Champion, it is available at level 3.

[Finoan]

HedonisticAspie wrote:

I'm making a dwarf that has gold jewelry in his beard and I want him to be able to have it become malleable and morph it into other shapes, perhaps even has weapons should he have enough gold on him to make something of the proper size.

Reskin Necklace of Knives so that it creates weapons that are made of gold.