Foresight

[The Total Package]

A question in regards to the spell Foresight.

Foresight [reaction] Trigger The target of foresight defends against a hostile creature or other danger; Effect If the hostile creature or danger forces the target to roll dice (a saving throw, for example), the target rolls twice and uses the higher result, and this spell gains the fortune trait. But if the hostile creature or danger is rolling against the target (an attack roll or skill check, for example), that hostile creature or danger rolls twice and uses the lower result, and this spell gains the misfortune trait.

My question is, do I say I am using my reaction after my ally has made the saving throw and failed, or do I have to use the reaction just before the roll is made? The same thing for when the enemy attacks is it immediately before they roll the attack?

Lastly, would this apply to having an enemy reroll its saving throw?

[Errenor]

Always before rolls.
Yes, you hypothetically can touch the enemy, turn off flanking for them and allow them to roll their saving throw twice and take the higher result.

[The Total Package]

Errenor wrote:

Always before rolls.

Yes, you hypothetically can touch the enemy, turn off flanking for them and allow them to roll their saving throw twice and take the higher result.

Now in order to touch the enemy, do I need to make any such roll?

[Farien]

The Total Package wrote:

Errenor wrote:

Always before rolls.

Yes, you hypothetically can touch the enemy, turn off flanking for them and allow them to roll their saving throw twice and take the higher result.

Now in order to touch the enemy, do I need to make any such roll?

Not sure why you are wanting to buff your enemies. The spell doesn't prevent you from targeting an enemy, but the effect is always good for the target.

You can't target the enemy and make them roll saves twice and take the lower result. You could target an enemy an let them roll saves twice and take the higher result.

And, well, it is kind of a moot point in my opinion... But no, targeting an enemy wouldn't require any checks - there is no defense entry listed. They would just need to be in your reach so that you could touch them.

[The Total Package]

Good point, if you were to use this defensively vs attack rolls would you recommend using it vs an enemy's first attack or second?

[Finoan]

That is very situational.

If you knew the enemy was going to make a second attack against you, it may be worth it to try and have them miss on the second hit instead of fishing for a miss on the first. But the math on that is complicated. You also have to consider their chances of crit on the first hit.

So against higher level enemies it probably leans more towards avoiding crits on the first hit. Against lower level enemies you can go miss-fishing on the second hit.

Again - assuming that the enemy is even going to attack twice that round. If they instead have something similar to Power Attack, they may use that instead. At which point it is definitely better to use it on the first attack since they aren't making a second attack.

[Castilliano]

As above, plus they might have a spell, breath weapon, Grab, tactical Stride, etc. to perform after their first Strike. So always use on first Strike, it's likely their larger attack too (rather than their Agile one), and while you might be less likely to avoid a hit, you're more likely to avoid a crit so it's effectively even on damage prevented. And you can't use it on the second Strike if the first disables you from taking Reactions (most likely from a crit dropping you, but maybe some carrier effect like paralysis (et al)).
The exception being if there's a reason to avoid getting hitting twice, Rend being the most likely example of a crit-like damage spike to avoid.

[Errenor]

Farien wrote:

But no, targeting an enemy wouldn't require any checks - there is no defense entry listed. They would just need to be in your reach so that you could touch them.

Yep, they haven't even required willing creature. Probably because nobody thought using it to help enemies.