Reloading another's weapon; any RAW to match RAI?


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It's definitively RAI that you can only reload a weapon while holding it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2zhNnBhnB0

Is there any RAW support for this anywhere? I find nothing.


The Reload rules and Reload trait both use first person language. "Switching your grip to free a hand and then to place your hands in the grip necessary to wield the weapon are both included in the actions you spend to reload a weapon."

Other than that, I'm not seeing much either. I don't see anything about requiring that you are holding or wielding a weapon in order to reload it. Though I believe holding the weapon is RAI required.

However, I also don't see any RAW to indicate that it is not required to be holding the weapon in order to Reload it. The lack of rules requiring that is not RAW. It is missing that 'as written' part of that acronym.

Edit: And I think this has been an open question from the very beginning when people were wanting to use their familiar to reload a crossbow that they are using.


Finoan wrote:

The Reload rules and Reload trait both use first person language. "Switching your grip to free a hand and then to place your hands in the grip necessary to wield the weapon are both included in the actions you spend to reload a weapon."

Other than that, I'm not seeing much either. I don't see anything about requiring that you are holding or wielding a weapon in order to reload it. Though I believe holding the weapon is RAI required.

However, I also don't see any RAW to indicate that it is not required to be holding the weapon in order to Reload it. The lack of rules requiring that is not RAW. It is missing that 'as written' part of that acronym.

Edit: And I think this has been an open question from the very beginning when people were wanting to use their familiar to reload a crossbow that they are using.

Thanks, I'll believe it's an old one. I'm just trying to sort out familiar issues in the remaster and was hoping maybe there was something I missed.


If anything, Remaster made familiars worse and more confusing. The rules are now split with the basic stats and abilities under the Pet general feat. And can't forget about losing the ability to use trained-only actions of skills regardless of having the Skilled ability.


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Here in is this question being answered by a dev: Part 3 of this video


graystone wrote:
Here in is this question being answered by a dev: Part 3 of this video

Yeah, that was the link in the OP where I said that it was definitively RAI because of that video, but he never cited any actual rules in the video because they apparently don't exist.

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