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I was surprised to see there was no thread for this movie.

Anyway, unlike more recent Marvel properties, this one actually had me a bit hopeful and excited. The more I saw, the more convinced I was this one might actually make a good bit of money.

Just a little while ago I saw an "out of theater" reaction/spoiler-free-review that had me even more hopeful. They said it was a great movie. That it paid homage to the Fox X-Men franchise while making lots of fun of more recent Marvel. That it not only had good cameos, but that some of them were quite substantial. It was also stated this was the most violent (Disney) MCU film to date.

So I was going to wait until a week or so had passed before maybe trying to see it in the theater, but now I may try to go this opening weekend instead.


I'm going opening weekend. No question. This movie has me hyped.

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

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Well, this was a lovely film that was just heartwarming and fulfilling and ridiculous and gory and sparkly tingly as it could have been.

Eh, actually it was a little too long and some moments could have been trimmed, but it was still great.

What I love about a movie of this type like is I can say s!&# like,

Spoilers????:
"Man, Chris Evans' cameo was everything I wanted out of his return to the MCU and then some."

And you're not even gonna know whether to believe me or what I'm talking about.

Every cameo was cool. Not sure what if anything it bodes for the MCU but it was lots of fun.

Strangely, if you have watched Loki a huge chunk of the movie will make a ton more sense.

Scarab Sages

Ugh, the more I hear about this, the more I think I might not bother to waste time and money seeing it in a theater. I've heard the overarching plot is ridiculous, relaying on the villains being kind of idiots in order to work. And then there's the inclusion of the TVA, which I knew about but despise (unless they're all getting horribly wiped from the face of existence).

If all it's got is the two leads and cameos, I might just wait for it to release on some non-Disney streaming service.


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I'm still in for it, especially now that A-zombie (who has pretty terrible taste) doesn't want to see it.


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do not lick the zombies.

This was amazeballs. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a movie.

My only criticism is that the disposable mooks aren't trying quite hard enough to not be disposable but I suppose in one instance it's justified...


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Good to know the Wolf has good taste.


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I loved this movie! It was such an unabashed love letter and thank you note to everything about the not MCU Marvel movies. And to fans. I didn't even know how much I needed it, but it was such a chance to breathe in a movie that wasn't ashamed of being a comic book movie. This is a movie that loves comics as much as I do, and loves comic movies as much as I do.

I saw it with my wife, who was somewhat bewildered despite having seen every movie that it references but not every source, if that makes sense, don't want to get too spoilery.

I also saw it with a friend, who was onboard for all of it. We walked out of the movie saying we needed to see it again. If I hadn't had many other obligations this weekend, I would pulled out my phone and bought another ticket.


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I saw it with my niece, who's going to have bragging rights and some new phrases when she goes to middle school next month....

Scarab Sages

GM SuperTumbler wrote:


I saw it with my wife, who was somewhat bewildered despite having seen every movie that it references but not every source, if that makes sense, don't want to get too spoilery.

This is part of my problem. The wife wants to see it, but the kids can't. And since we don't want to risk leaving them home alone together (not even for 2 minutes, let alone 2+ hours.....

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

do not lick the zombies.

Hey, now! Some gals have enjoyed doing that over the years.


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Aberzombie wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

do not lick the zombies.

Hey, now! Some gals have enjoyed doing that over the years.

Vana Wight, Zombeyoncay , Nicole Lichdom?


Since you brought up Beyonce!

If you ever need to distract someone, look surprised over their shoulder and say "Is that Beyonce?!" (Also works extremely well with Taylor Swift). They will look away 100% of the time (I used it for 6 years at Toys R Us) I even used it on the kids when we brought home Christmas presents pointing at the kitchen, twice.

Scarab Sages

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Sadly, that no longer works if you say "Is that John Wayne?!"


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Aberzombie wrote:
Sadly, that no longer works if you say "Is that John Wayne?!"

It does in a graveyard.


Why does John Wayne even matter? He was a freaking tool.

Scarab Sages

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captain yesterday wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Sadly, that no longer works if you say "Is that John Wayne?!"
It does in a graveyard.

Ah, graveyards. Second biggest waste of real estate, behind golf courses.


Aberzombie wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Sadly, that no longer works if you say "Is that John Wayne?!"
It does in a graveyard.
Ah, graveyards. Second biggest waste of real estate, behind golf courses.

We could turn gravestones into little concrete windmills and things and combine the two.

Scarab Sages

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Sadly, that no longer works if you say "Is that John Wayne?!"
It does in a graveyard.
Ah, graveyards. Second biggest waste of real estate, behind golf courses.
We could turn gravestones into little concrete windmills and things and combine the two.

I was supposed to make it look like miniature golf first?


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Why does John Wayne even matter? He was a freaking tool.

his death was rather horrid. Caught cancer due to doing a movie that Howard Hughes bankroll that was on radioactive ground. Spread so much his stomach was removed.


Eh. He's not quite the legend that Jimmy Stewart was. I was never that big of a fan. I am sorry he died horribly though.


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John Wayne gets a bad rap today, he wasn't the greatest actor ever, but he wasn't that bad. These were different times in Hollywood, standards and production values were completely different.

And yeah, The Conqueror was an absolute s#%% show that killed most of it's cast and crew by being filmed downwind from the nuclear testing grounds (they also brought a s@#@ load of contaminated desert back to Hollywood when they had to do reshoots).


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Eh. He's not quite the legend that Jimmy Stewart was. I was never that big of a fan. I am sorry he died horribly though.

Jimmy Stewart is okay but he wasn't that great to be honest.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Why does John Wayne even matter? He was a freaking tool.

How so? I'm genuinely curious? I've heard this before but no one can explain why.


Honestly he keeps this machiso attitude in everything that I find very off putting. He treated plenty of co-stars like crap. Also he hated horses. HORSES. So...yeah.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Honestly he keeps this machiso attitude in everything that I find very off putting. He treated plenty of co-stars like crap. Also he hated horses. HORSES. So...yeah.

You've clearly never been kicked by a horse.

To be honest, I hate horse as well. They're completely untrustworthy.

#neverforgetChristopherReeveswasthrownfromahorse.


I remember but I don't blame horses for that. It's humans. Also I have been kicked by horses. I just choose not to hold it against them the same way I've been bit by dogs and I don't hold that against them either.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
I remember but I don't blame horses for that. It's humans. Also I have been kicked by horses. I just choose not to hold it against them the same way I've been bit by dogs and I don't hold that against them either.

Nope, it's the horses, they are vindictive AF!

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So … Deadpool & Wolverine …


I'm hoping to see it this weekend since my brother's delayed return trip from spending time on a Viking river cruise on the Rheine got seriously delayed.


And the universe just told me to go screw myself since a client wants me to work on Saturday and I have no reasonable objection to say no.


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Watched it yesterday and it was great. Jackman and Reynolds alone are worth seeing the movie at least once.


I hope I can see it on Friday if I'm not tired. I could see it tomorrow evening...but that seems unlikely.

Grand Lodge

Caught this last Sunday, it was a joy from start to finish. Some parts were definitely a "well, this might as well happen" and the jokes about the runtime didn't help with the fatigue of a long movie. Overall it was fully set to 11 the whole time, which was exhilarating and exhausting in equal measure.

Scarab Sages

I finally got around to renting this off Amazon. It was okay. Certainly vastly inferior to the first Deadpool movie. And perhaps slightly behind the second Deadpool movie. It might have beaten that second one, except for the inclusion of the TVA. You'd think using an organization who's existence was intended to make fun of faceless corporate bureaucracy would have been a perfect fit for a movie like this, but the MCU takes the TVA far to seriously for it to be fun or entertaining.

I enjoyed the Johnny Storm and Blade cameos. I especially liked Blade and his ice skate uphill line. His "I'm the only Blade" line was kind of funny as well. The Johnny Storm after credits scene was hilarious. It was kind of cool to see Jennifer Gardner as Elektra, though I never really considered her a good fit in that role. It was also cool to see some of the more minor villains like Sabertooth and Pyro.

It's sad that it took over 20 years to get Wolverine in an actual Wolverine costume. Some of the variant scenes were cool.

Overall, the plot was silly, but at least it kind of made sense. I've never been a big fan of the Cassandra Nova character, but the chick playing her did a really good job.

The wife wanted to buy this one digitally, but I said no. I prefer physical media. Not sure if I'll ever buy this one, however.


Haven't yet to see it, I'm even more convinced I will enjoy this more than Zombie ever could.


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The stars aligned, and I finally saw this movie. It had some great, fun moments, but ultimately I'm disappointed. Like most blockbuster sequels nowadays, someone thought they understood what worked for the previous movies and decided that the answer was to have even MORE of it in the sequel. The breaking of the fourth wall was fun in the previous movies and the comic book, but it just felt like a rehashed joke in this movie after maybe the 3rd time. Most of the fights felt unimportant, because Deadpool wasn't challenged by them in the least. For example, how did one Deadpool so easily defeat an entire mob of Deadpools? (Or half of them, since Wolverine easily defeated the other half.)

The one fight I did like was the fight in the Honda Odyssey, and that was because it was good character building/storytelling. I liked that scene a lot, actually.

The cameos and nods to the 20th Century Fox movies were fun, but seeing the resistance fight during the final confrontation felt confusing. They were expecting to fight to the death, but somehow they were nigh-invulnerable against this army of other superheroes and supervillains?

Maybe it was the hype that was built up after all these months of hearing people talk about it, but it feels like the studio was so reliant on the movie's star power and Easter eggs, that they put minimum effort into the story.


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I got about a third of the way through and gave up. I was never the biggest Deadpool fan and the writing was bad enough that even Renolds' passion couldn't keep it afloat. The TVA was s~&% and dumb in Loki (it was a big reason I didn't bother with season 2) and it was worse now.

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

Wow, tell us how you really feel, Bjørn. ;)

Certainly I can see many reasons, actually not to like the movie. (I liked it, as noted above, but I like silly s%!%.)

Disliking the TVA part never even crossed my mind though as to why one wouldn't enjoy it (or Loki). Out of curiosity, what bugs you about it?

Grand Lodge

It was a LOT of Deadpool, even for a fan like me. I wouldn't go back to watch it again, but for one sit through I got my enjoyment out of it. I enjoyed the TVA but I can understand it turning others off. I thought it was a good framework for reconciling the Fox movies with the MCU.


I'm not disparaging people for liking it; goodness knows I like some dumb/bad stuff. D&W just wasn't my kind of dumb/bad.

The TVA is supposed to be a multiversal entity that for some reason looks and acts like a 50s/60s American government organization. The showrunners had the opportunity to go wild with their imagination but what they manage to produce is boring humans with a very overused aesthetic which makes no sense for the setting (unless there was something in their history I missed/forgot).

They are supposedly very competent but get tripped up by the dumbest stuff, and as time wardens go they fail slightly worse than most such organizations I've come across. The only thing they managed was to show that with a lot of time and pratice, Owen Wilson actually managed to be funny.

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