Enhanced Familiar from multiple sources


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Hello!

So I'm playing a Magus who really likes his familiar and took the Enhanced Familiar feat. My Magus also took the Wizard Dedication and through the dedication it looks like he can pick up Enhanced Familiar again.

Is this legal? Pathbuilder seems to say yes but I'm unsure.


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Paco_Laburantes wrote:

Hello!

So I'm playing a Magus who really likes his familiar and took the Enhanced Familiar feat. My Magus also took the Wizard Dedication and through the dedication it looks like he can pick up Enhanced Familiar again.

Is this legal? Pathbuilder seems to say yes but I'm unsure.

It’s legal, but it wouldn’t do anything - the feat increases the number of familiar abilities from 2 to 4, so the second copy would have no effect. Generally, taking a feat multiple times has no effect unless the feat states otherwise.

If he’s interested in improving his familiar further, he would have better luck with the witch or familiar master dedication, as those have access to additional familiar improvements. Witches are also intelligence casters, and conceivably he could retrain his archetype if you allow it.


FreneticKineticAscetic wrote:
Paco_Laburantes wrote:

Hello!

So I'm playing a Magus who really likes his familiar and took the Enhanced Familiar feat. My Magus also took the Wizard Dedication and through the dedication it looks like he can pick up Enhanced Familiar again.

Is this legal? Pathbuilder seems to say yes but I'm unsure.

It’s legal, but it wouldn’t do anything - the feat increases the number of familiar abilities from 2 to 4, so the second copy would have no effect. Generally, taking a feat multiple times has no effect unless the feat states otherwise.

If he’s interested in improving his familiar further, he would have better luck with the witch or familiar master dedication, as those have access to additional familiar improvements. Witches are also intelligence casters, and conceivably he could retrain his archetype if you allow it.

Ah! Good catch!

So if he were to take witch dedication and then basic witchcraft which says at the end: "You can select three familiar abilities for your familiar each day, instead of two." His familiar should get: 2 (base) + 2 (enhanced familiar) + 1 (basic witchcraft) = 5?


Paco_Laburantes wrote:
So if he were to take witch dedication and then basic witchcraft which says at the end: "You can select three familiar abilities for your familiar each day, instead of two." His familiar should get: 2 (base) + 2 (enhanced familiar) + 1 (basic witchcraft) = 5?

Yes. And then at level 16 you could use the Advanced Witchcraft archetype feat to take Incredible Familiar for two more abilities.


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You would get a better familiar progression from familiar master, though. You'd get incredible familiar at 10 and improved familiar at 6. That said, witch is stronger overall since it can get you more spell slots, which the magus very much appreciates.

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