The Scroll Thaumaturgy feat reads as follows
"Your multidisciplinary study of magic means you know how to activate the magic in scrolls with ease. You can activate scrolls of any magical tradition, using your thaumaturge class DC for the scroll's DC, rather than a particular spell DC. If a spell is on the spell list for multiple traditions, you choose which tradition to use at the time you activate the scroll. You can draw and activate scrolls with the same hand holding an implement, much like you can for esoterica."
Regarding the last sentence- Can a Thaumaturge carry around one scroll at the ready while also holding their implement? I've run into a number of cases where I've really wished I could cast a 3-action heal spell but been unable to retrieve the spell in time, and we only narrowly avoided disaster last night because the GM handwaved the question of how using a scroll of Breath of Life would work.
Is there a solid answer? Or do I run it by my PFS GMs at the beginning of each session (especially relevant as after the con this week I will be 9th level and recieve a Scroll of Breath of Life at the beginning of each scenario)
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Can a Thaumaturge carry around one scroll at the ready while also holding their implement?
As far as I know, yes. It is hard to argue that doing so doesn't work.
What is debated is if holding the scroll in your hand turns off Implement's Empowerment.
You don't gain the benefit of implement's empowerment if you are holding anything in either hand other than a single one-handed weapon, other implements, or esoterica, and you must be holding at least one implement to gain the benefit.
Scroll Thaumaturgy doesn't change scrolls into esoterica - it just lets you use them in the same hand as an implement like you can with esoterica.
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense.
So, a follow-up question; How does the "free hand" required to use a scroll inscribed on a Scroll Robe interact with scroll thaumaturgy?
The rules for Inscribe items "The equipment, typically an armor or shield, has been treated so it can be inscribed with magical symbols using the same methods as Crafting a scroll. Inscribed attire can hold one scroll inscribed on it. You need a free hand to Activate the scroll, but you don't need to Interact to draw it. You can also Activate the magic to erase the scroll the equipment currently contains. You can't inscribe a new scroll onto the equipment if a scroll is currently inscribed on it or if the equipment is broken"
And the rules for Casting a spell from a scroll that the Inscribed trait refernces amd Scroll Thaumaturgy modifies "Casting a Spell from a scroll requires holding the scroll in one hand and activating it with a Cast a Spell activity using the normal number of actions for that spell."
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This looks like a 'specific overrides general' type of thing, but the two things competing are both specific - so there is likely going to be disagreement on which one is more specific.
General: you draw a scroll to wield it in one hand, then activate it using the cast a spell activation.
Specific (Inscribed): You need a free hand to activate the scroll, but you don't need to draw it.
Specific (Scroll Thaumaturgy): You can draw and activate a scroll in the same hand as you are holding an Implement.
Conflict: Inscribed says that the hand must be free to activate an Inscribed scroll, Scroll Thaumaturgy says that you can activate a scroll using a hand occupied by an Implement.
Personally I would go with Scroll Thaumaturgy being more specific. The Inscribed feature means that you don't have to draw the scroll to activate it, and Scroll Thaumaturgy lets you activate the Inscribed scroll with a hand occupied by an Implement.
I'd say they don't interact and the scroll robes don't benefit from scroll thaumaturgy.
Scroll robes require you to inscribe using the same method as normal crafting, so you can't put a free thamauturge scroll on there to begin with.
The free thamaturge scrolls are formed from elements of your esoterica, that's why they benefit from the same "look, ma, both in one hand!" ability to hold an esoterica (or scroll formed from same) in the same hand a an implement. It's no help with regular scrolls not formed from esoterica.
I'd say they don't interact and the scroll robes don't benefit from scroll thaumaturgy.
Scroll robes require you to inscribe using the same method as normal crafting, so you can't put a free thamauturge scroll on there to begin with.
The free thamaturge scrolls are formed from elements of your esoterica, that's why they benefit from the same "look, ma, both in one hand!" ability to hold an esoterica (or scroll formed from same) in the same hand a an implement. It's no help with regular scrolls not formed from esoterica.
This was in regards to a scroll that a Thaumaturge had inscribed on their robes (Probably by paying someone), not to the free scrolls from the sibsequent parts of the feat chain.
The initial scroll Thaumaturgy feat definately works woth all ordinary scrolls, not just the ones you get for free. Otherwise the initial feat wouldn't do anything for 7 levels.
Oh yeah. I withdraw my point.