Witch of the wilding steward patron in Kingmaker


Kingmaker Second Edition


So I am GMing Kingmaker and one of my players is playing a witch of the wilding steward. I am trying to decide on a patron for them. I was considering Nyrissa, maybe the witch's familiar could be a fragment of Nyrissa (kind of like Briar) and it searched someone out to try and help Nyrissa in one way or another. Maybe the patron is a subordinate or ally of Nyrissa's from before she started destroying kingdoms and while this being can't take action against Nyrissa directly they want the witch as an agent for their goal of freeing Nyrissa. I would probably have the witch start to feel some kind of mental tug as they get farther along the in exploring the lost lands and get further along in the story and they wouldn't find out too much about their patron until the appropriate time so as to avoid spoiling things too early. I am slightly concerned about messing with such a core part of the story though so I am considering other options.

Does anyone have any suggestions on any beings in the pathfinder universe that would make a good witch of the wildings patron? Especially with this being a Kingmaker campaign I was thinking a fey being of some sort would be ideal but I am not super well versed in pathfinder lore yet. Also if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions on the Nyrissa idea and implementing it well I would love to hear them.


I have a PC witch who has a patron of starless shadow. I have decided that the patron is Count Ranalc, one of the eldest. He has a connection to Nyrissa as her former lover that I feel will have some interesting connections and story hooks. Conversely he's not an NPC that directly shows up in the adventure so it gives me the freedom to make him what I want him to be to suit my player.

Thematically his personal anathema and edicts are more aligned with Starless Shadow but just by nature of being a eldest of the fae (and their inherent connection to primal magic) is probably enough to justify wildling steward if you like the reasoning for my selection.


Paige Kuplinski wrote:

I have a PC witch who has a patron of starless shadow. I have decided that the patron is Count Ranalc, one of the eldest. He has a connection to Nyrissa as her former lover that I feel will have some interesting connections and story hooks. Conversely he's not an NPC that directly shows up in the adventure so it gives me the freedom to make him what I want him to be to suit my player.

Thematically his personal anathema and edicts are more aligned with Starless Shadow but just by nature of being a eldest of the fae (and their inherent connection to primal magic) is probably enough to justify wildling steward if you like the reasoning for my selection.

agreed that Ranalc could be an interesting choice and I will probably keep them as an option. I had taken a look at all the eldest and was surprised that only one of them had a particular nature-ish vibe and I am not sure that The Green Mother's ideals would mesh well with the witch.


Same exact boat here. This is my second time running KM, first in 1e, and this go around I have a wilding steward witch with a plant familiar. He doesn’t want to know the patron preferring its identity to be unveiled during the story. Funny enough, both Queen N and the Count were possibilities (could you imagine the witch fighting through the whole AP to then at the end realize the big bad is his patron? Shivers.
But…. I’m not sure if that would go down well with my player. I think I’m just going to have it be the lantern king. I’ll add more to this later.


Lantern king feels more like a gotcha than the Nyrissa unless you think they will have fun with the chaos. At least Nyrissa has a viable path for redemption. My PC also doesn't want to know who their patron just that he wants their goals to align with the party.

I figure Count Ranalc would have reason in being invested having the kingdom succeed so that Nyrissa is drawn out. If he knows about Briar then he can serve as a greater impetus to search for that and restore Nyrissa's love.

Another option is Magdh. Although her edicts and anathema are more about deals and divination she does preside over a section of a first world forest. She also could easily be adapted into an "witch of the woods" type flavor wise. Plus her ideals suit the pact based nature of the witch class.

All that being said if you want you could probably easily make up a new eldest for your game to use if the options don't suit.

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