So, I've been messing around with different builds and started playing around with possible monk builds. There is a feat (ancestral weaponry) for the monk that, if you have the monastic weaponry feat, you can make racial weapons monk weapons.
Because there is a general feat for weapon proficiency, and most other races have a feat for racial weapons, it sort of feels like the universal nature of the human should make their Unconventional Weapon feat their racial feat. I can see how this might be considered a stretch, but I also feel like it plays well into the idea that humans are everywhere and get adopted into everything (or that everything gets adopted into them), so I don't feel like this would be unreasonable. However, I can't find anything in writing to suggest that a weapon proficiency gained through the human feat would make it such.
It doesn't work that way, no. You can't find anything to make it work because there's nothing to find.
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So, I've been messing around with different builds and started playing around with possible monk builds. There is a feat (ancestral weaponry) for the monk that, if you have the monastic weaponry feat, you can make racial weapons monk weapons.
Because there is a general feat for weapon proficiency, and most other races have a feat for racial weapons, it sort of feels like the universal nature of the human should make their Unconventional Weapon feat their racial feat. I can see how this might be considered a stretch, but I also feel like it plays well into the idea that humans are everywhere and get adopted into everything (or that everything gets adopted into them), so I don't feel like this would be unreasonable. However, I can't find anything in writing to suggest that a weapon proficiency gained through the human feat would make it such.
Unfortunately, this doesn't work for one big reason:
Ancestral Weaponry requires a feat that grants you access to all weapons with a given ancestry trait. Even if [Human] was a valid weapon trait (and it isn't), Unconventional Weaponry grants you access to one weapon, not all of them, so it wouldn't qualify anyway.
Now, mechanically, I don't think anything breaks if you allow a human monk to use Ancestral Weaponry to make his one weapon acquired through Unconventional Weaponry into a monk weapon (so long as it's finesse or agile). But it'd need to be something you talk to your GM about.
So, I've been messing around with different builds and started playing around with possible monk builds. There is a feat (ancestral weaponry) for the monk that, if you have the monastic weaponry feat, you can make racial weapons monk weapons.
Because there is a general feat for weapon proficiency, and most other races have a feat for racial weapons, it sort of feels like the universal nature of the human should make their Unconventional Weapon feat their racial feat. I can see how this might be considered a stretch, but I also feel like it plays well into the idea that humans are everywhere and get adopted into everything (or that everything gets adopted into them), so I don't feel like this would be unreasonable. However, I can't find anything in writing to suggest that a weapon proficiency gained through the human feat would make it such.
Unfortunately, this doesn't work for one big reason:
Ancestral Weaponry requires a feat that grants you access to all weapons with a given ancestry trait. Even if [Human] was a valid weapon trait (and it isn't), Unconventional Weaponry grants you access to one weapon, not all of them, so it wouldn't qualify anyway.
Now, mechanically, I don't think anything breaks if you allow a human monk to use Ancestral Weaponry to make his one weapon acquired through Unconventional Weaponry into a monk weapon (so long as it's finesse or agile). But it'd need to be something you talk to your GM about.
Thank you for the more thought out response. I agree with the premise, and being an eternal GM I mostly just wanted a viewpoint to explain on the spirit of the rule why this would or would not work. I was looking at it from the point of the fact that humans are adaptable and universal so why wouldn't their ancestorial weapon feat provide them a human trait to their chosen weapon.
Thanks again for your insight - I really do appreciate it!
Yeah, I would also second the idea that allowing this interaction wouldn't be an overpowered combination of a houserule. But it is a houserule.
