Another rule question (Evangelist)


Rules Questions


Character is a sorcerer 1/arcanist 4/evangelist 10
Has Bloodline Development

Quote:
"SNIP If the arcanist already has a bloodline (or gains one later), taking this exploit instead allows her arcanist levels to stack with the levels of the class that granted her access to the bloodline when determining the powers and abilities of her bloodline."

Preforms his Obedience daily...

Chose Arcanist for his Aligned class
Quote:


Aligned Class (Ex): Evangelists come from many different backgrounds, and they show an unusual range of diversity. At 2nd level, the evangelist must choose a class she belonged to before adding the prestige class to be her aligned class. She gains all the class features for this class, essentially adding every evangelist level beyond 1st to her aligned class to determine what class features she gains. She still retains the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the prestige class, but gains all other class features of her aligned class as well as those of the evangelist prestige class

Would the bloodline development still function, granting the Evangelist to the bloodline abilities


Yes. That's the great thing about that PrC. You get all the regular features from the original class. So as long as you're getting a bloodline from Arcanist, you are good to go.


So if it is from arcanist is "Kind of"

The bloodline is from sorcerer, however they get to add arcanist levels TO the sorcerer bloodline, so the question becomes Does the exploit still work even though the levels are no longer arcanist levels...

The Exchange

The answer is “Yes”

She gets the Hit Dice, base attack bonus, saving throw bonuses, and skill ranks of the Evangelist class instead of the base class. For every other purpose the aligned class ability means she counts as having gained a level in the base class. Including how many arcanist levels she has for determining when she gains exploits and the strength of her exploits.


Yes indeed. Do note, however, your arcanist spell progression is now delayed by 2 levels. One from sorcerer level, and the first Evangelist level does not count toward your aligned class. Your level 15 spellcaster is casting arcanist spells as though level 13: 6th level instead of 7th level spells.


I grok do u wrote:
Yes indeed. Do note, however, your arcanist spell progression is now delayed by 2 levels. One from sorcerer level, and the first Evangelist level does not count toward your aligned class. Your level 15 spellcaster is casting arcanist spells as though level 13: 6th level instead of 7th level spells.

I am aware. I will take Magic Knack to help with the CL, but of course that does not help with the 7th level spells or the spells known.

It is a suboptimal build in some senses, so going to try to mitigate where I can...


Jason Wedel wrote:
I grok do u wrote:
Yes indeed. Do note, however, your arcanist spell progression is now delayed by 2 levels. One from sorcerer level, and the first Evangelist level does not count toward your aligned class. Your level 15 spellcaster is casting arcanist spells as though level 13: 6th level instead of 7th level spells.

I am aware. I will take Magic Knack to help with the CL, but of course that does not help with the 7th level spells or the spells known.

It is a suboptimal build in some senses, so going to try to mitigate where I can...

Magic Knack IS the go to trait for multi-classed spellcasters.

I know feats are usually tight, but another option to consider for spontaneous casters is the Curator of Mystic Secrets exemplar trait. If your GM allows it, the trait lets you get multiple magic traits at the cost of taking the Additional Traits feat, and it gives you the ability to use metamagic a limited number of times per day without increasing casting time.


I grok do u wrote:
Jason Wedel wrote:
I grok do u wrote:
Yes indeed. Do note, however, your arcanist spell progression is now delayed by 2 levels. One from sorcerer level, and the first Evangelist level does not count toward your aligned class. Your level 15 spellcaster is casting arcanist spells as though level 13: 6th level instead of 7th level spells.

I am aware. I will take Magic Knack to help with the CL, but of course that does not help with the 7th level spells or the spells known.

It is a suboptimal build in some senses, so going to try to mitigate where I can...

Magic Knack IS the go to trait for multi-classed spellcasters.

I know feats are usually tight, but another option to consider for spontaneous casters is the Curator of Mystic Secrets exemplar trait. If your GM allows it, the trait lets you get multiple magic traits at the cost of taking the Additional Traits feat, and it gives you the ability to use metamagic a limited number of times per day without increasing casting time.

Thank you, was not familiar with these...was planning on taking a few Drow feats for some extra spell like abilities...

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Another rule question (Evangelist) All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.