Aroden paladin code, anathema and etc.

[Kavlor]

I have a question regarding the code for the paladins of Aroden, as well as what the anathema and edicts of this religion are. I know that at the moment Aroden is dead and therefore these issues were never raised in official materials, because the priests and paladins of Aroden no longer have powers, even if some of them are still alive. I am interested in this question in a historical context, since Aroden's death occurred relatively recently, and information about his faith should be readily available.

My opinion is that Aroden's code should contain some information regarding civilization and progress.

For example: I will never allow the bastion of civilization to be destroyed, just as Aroden preserved the remnants of humanity after Earthfall.

Or something like this: I pledge to help spread civilization and knowledge by spreading knowledge to all living people.

Is there anyone on this form who would like to help with this topic?

[Sibelius Eos Owm]

Ooh, an interesting idea... as complex as he was, I'm sure there's enough information about Aroden out there that we can come up with some idea what he would have had for tenets.

One thing I would like to add: I feel like it should specify that he'd never let human civilization be destroyed. He himself allowed a bastion of xulgath civilization be destroyed in the Darklands when he stole their cavern hearts. He may not have realized he had doomed them at first, but he still stole their power source because he thought humans could use them better and let them rot.

It seems to me that Aroden values excellence in many degrees--cunning, martial prowess, magical skill. Considering his relationship to ancient Azlant, he may despise corruption and excess.

He himself was a morally grey character, but I feel like he might only LN/LG worshippers. Maybe LE but he might be particular about how much they remind him of his own failings. For Remaster, holy sanctification is allowed. I Feel like Unholy is even less likely than LE worship just because he didn't like Norgorber very much for being an example of humanity's darkness.

A tenet about fulfilling destiny may be appropriate, too, or certainly at least striving to better oneself and better one's society.

[Kavlor]

I understand that Aroden himself is much more morally dubious than he seems to be. However, I still propose to think about the topic of his paladins, who should embody the best that the faith of Aroden offers.

At the same time, I can thank you for the idea that faith in Aroden should value self-improvement.

I'll be honest though, I can imagine Aroden having Tyrant anti-paladins. In such a case, their code would focus on the worst aspects of imperialism and exploitation, as well as promoting the position of humanity to the detriment of all other races.

[Captain Zoom]

the Pathfinder Wiki has an entry for Aroden. Of course, back in PF1 they didn't have anathema and such, but at least you can get a god entry to look it.

They have him as LN

[Claxon]

Kavlor wrote:

I have a question regarding the code for the paladins of Aroden, as well as what the anathema and edicts of this religion are. I know that at the moment Aroden is dead and therefore these issues were never raised in official materials, because the priests and paladins of Aroden no longer have powers, even if some of them are still alive. I am interested in this question in a historical context, since Aroden's death occurred relatively recently, and information about his faith should be readily available.

My opinion is that Aroden's code should contain some information regarding civilization and progress.

For example: I will never allow the bastion of civilization to be destroyed, just as Aroden preserved the remnants of humanity after Earthfall.

Or something like this: I pledge to help spread civilization and knowledge by spreading knowledge to all living people.

Is there anyone on this form who would like to help with this topic?

I'm not sure it's true that clerics and paladins of Aroden all lost their powers. I think there were statements that Iomedae is providing power to some.

[Ascalaphus]

It actually seems like Aroden would be a great fit for the remastered take on "most people have anathemas, it's just that for some people they have mechanical consequences".

I think there could be some seed material in the PFS1 adventure The Confirmation, where it mentions 12 exemplars of humanity, including beggars and thieves.

[Kavlor]

Claxon wrote:

I'm not sure it's true that clerics and paladins of Aroden all lost their powers. I think there were statements that Iomedae is providing power to some.

They all seemed to have lost their powers. It is precisely this that is connected with the fact that now the majority of representatives of the still existing Church of Aroden do not revere Aroden himself. After all, if their god is dead and he cannot deny them access to divine magic, then they can simply pose as a devout cleric and take his place.

[The Raven Black]

Ascalaphus wrote:

It actually seems like Aroden would be a great fit for the remastered take on "most people have anathemas, it's just that for some people they have mechanical consequences".

I think there could be some seed material in the PFS1 adventure The Confirmation, where it mentions 12 exemplars of humanity, including beggars and thieves.

The twelve guises of Aroden (from the Pathfinderwiki)

"When Aroden walked the world disguised, he took on one of twelve guises: artist, beggar, craftsman or artisan, farmer, fisher, hunter, merchant, scholar, shepherd, soldier, tailor, and thief."