Which important spells are missing in PC1?

[roquepo]

I've noticed Mirror Image and Synesthesia thus far, but what other relevant spells from CRB and APG have not appeared in PC1? Do you think we will get some of them in PC2?

I'm ambivalent about Synesthesia not getting reprinted, but Mirror Image will be sorely missed for sure if I end up playing in a remaster-only game.

[Ritunn]

I've noticed a lot of the Primastic spells from the CRB have yet to reappear. They aren't amazing by any means, but they are very fun spells too!

[Finoan]

Mirror Image was probably not kept because of the name. I don't see any reason why the effect or something similar to it wouldn't be printed again later.

I'm also not entirely sure what a Remaster-only game even means. Is Rage of Elements Remaster or not? How about Champion? It got compatibility errata - does that count? Sorcerer? Barbarian?

[Ascalaphus]

I can imagine that at some point a GM is gonna say "well 95% of what was in the old CRB has been reprinted in PC1, PC2 and GMC. If Synesthesia isn't in there, it was probably taken out deliberately".

[Themetricsystem]

Ascalaphus wrote:

I can imagine that at some point a GM is gonna say "well 95% of what was in the old CRB has been reprinted in PC1, PC2 and GMC. If Synesthesia isn't in there, it was probably taken out deliberately".

I genuinely think that is the correct take here given just how Synesthesia was for essentially considered a mandatory spell choice for anyone even remotely interested in debuffing/control or literally just any bard.

[thenobledrake]

Right now I view anything that hasn't shown up in the Player Core but could have because it was from the core book or APG as potentially being held for further review and adjustment, potentially being released in Player Core 2. Excepting, of course, the things we're already sure are legacy content.

Once Player Core 2 is out, anything that still didn't show up and is officially legacy content, I'll likely stop using (meaning I as a player will not pick it out for my characters, and as a GM will not actively put it into the game - i.e. an NPC will not be casting shocking grasp and there won't be scrolls of it found as treasure) - but I will not being barring a player from using it unless some future piece of content has some wild interaction with it that makes it behave inappropriately.

Because I'm the sort that believes anything that has been left as legacy content does have a reason for it, but that reason is probably one of identity rather than Paizo using a "we're making an errata pass over the whole game because its convenient at the moment" event to delete, rather than change, options for mechanical reasons.

[roquepo]

Ritunn wrote:

I've noticed a lot of the Primastic spells from the CRB have yet to reappear. They aren't amazing by any means, but they are very fun spells too!

Some of them have a new name, like Color Spray and Dizzying Colors.

Finoan wrote:

I'm also not entirely sure what a Remaster-only game even means.

A game that excludes options from CRB and APG (mostly once PC2 comes out). My group and I are considering trying that for our next campaign.

thenobledrake wrote:

Right now I view anything that hasn't shown up in the Player Core but could have because it was from the core book or APG as potentially being held for further review and adjustment, potentially being released in Player Core 2. Excepting, of course, the things we're already sure are legacy content.

I hope most of the missing ones will show up in PC2, just want to know which relevant ones are missing now.