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Just noticed this on twitter: https://twitter.com/PaizoWorkers/status/1666236773763280897
(short version: Paizo and UPW have agreed on a union contract and it actually seems to be working out well for everyone.)
So... awesome. I'm especially pleased by the combination of the announcement itself and Eric Mona's reply to it. I remember when this stuff was a HUGE topic on this board, with lots of uncertainty and concern... and it's really cool to see that it all seems to have been going well and to be continuing to go well.
This is what we love to see
Just noticed this on twitter: https://twitter.com/PaizoWorkers/status/1666236773763280897
Yes, very good news!
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Real talk, this is what I was hoping for. No news about Paizo fighting the union, just the boring process of figuring out how to improve the lives of workers. Looks like management was smart enough to realize the value of having the 'union-made' rep in an industry rife with worker exploitation, especially when it further contrasts them against WotC.
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Real talk, this is what I was hoping for. No news about Paizo fighting the union, just the boring process of figuring out how to improve the lives of workers. Looks like management was smart enough to realize the value of having the 'union-made' rep in an industry rife with worker exploitation, especially when it further contrasts them against WotC.
Well, yeah... and, as I've said before, it's not just about the reputation. If everyone (Union and Management) is working together in the way that ideally, we'd really like them to, there's a real value-add just in having an entirely independent chain that can notice issues and help come up with solutions/improvement earlier rather than later. There are certain kinds of problem that can be a lot easier to discuss with your union rep than with your boss, and some of those problems are such that everyone is better off if they're not left to fester for too long.
From what little I can see, UPW and Paizo management are leaning in on this kind of fruitful cooperation, and that's really cool.
No news about Paizo fighting the union, just the boring process of figuring out how to improve the lives of workers.Remember that Paizo recognized the union without forcing a unionization vote under the NLRB rules.
Managment said, 'yep' and got to work negotiating without any hoop-jumping.
Yeah? That's kind of what I meant by 'not fighting the union'.
I'm still not likely to give management any headpats here. Unions don't tend to form unless something is going wrong in a workplace. They did the right thing only after doing the wrong thing.
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Unions don't tend to form unless something is going wrong in a workplace.No news about Paizo fighting the union, just the boring process of figuring out how to improve the lives of workers.Remember that Paizo recognized the union without forcing a unionization vote under the NLRB rules.
Managment said, 'yep' and got to work negotiating without any hoop-jumping.
Not necessarily. Sometimes management forms a pliant company union to head off independent unionization.
Yeah, yellow unions are a thing and definitely a sign that things have gone very wrong in the company. Generally, it indicates that a company knows its plans are or are going to be wildly unpopular and it wants to dilute the negotiating power of the workers even further by heading off unionization efforts.
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Honestly, at this point I feel like "responds well when it turns out that they screwed up" is doing better than a lot of their peers.
I feel like one of Paizo's strengths as a company has been their willingness to do just that, again and again... and that a lot of the cool things we're seeing from them now come out of actually having learned lessons from mistakes of the past, in exactly the way you'd hope that people and companies could learn lessons.
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Honestly, at this point I feel like "responds well when it turns out that they screwed up" is doing better than a lot of their peers.
Fair, but that bar is so low it is functionally subterranean.
I feel like one of Paizo's strengths as a company has been their willingness to do just that, again and again... and that a lot of the cool things we're seeing from them now come out of actually having learned lessons from mistakes of the past, in exactly the way you'd hope that people and companies could learn lessons.
Again, fair, but they could have learned these particular lessons back before the workers needed to organize and hold them to account. None of this happened in a vacuum and the problems that prompted the formation of the union were well known before the union was formed. These were not 'honest mistakes'. They were a pattern of behavior by management that ended up needing the threat of serious industrial action to put an end to.
Sweeping that under the rug only opens the door it bad situations happening again in the future.
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Balancing progress with sustainability is the challenge that corporations and members of a CBA face on a regular basis.
I'd rather throw a bone for the effort than beating over the head with it -- as long as the history isn't forgotten.
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Honestly, at this point I feel like "responds well when it turns out that they screwed up" is doing better than a lot of their peers.Fair, but that bar is so low it is functionally subterranean.
I feel like one of Paizo's strengths as a company has been their willingness to do just that, again and again... and that a lot of the cool things we're seeing from them now come out of actually having learned lessons from mistakes of the past, in exactly the way you'd hope that people and companies could learn lessons.Again, fair, but they could have learned these particular lessons back before the workers needed to organize and hold them to account. None of this happened in a vacuum and the problems that prompted the formation of the union were well known before the union was formed. These were not 'honest mistakes'. They were a pattern of behavior by management that ended up needing the threat of serious industrial action to put an end to.
Sweeping that under the rug only opens the door it bad situations happening again in the future.
The management has changed a lot too. Not the same people.