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1st Edition
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Peri-blooded
Outside Native
Alignment NG
Peri-blooded, or emberkin as they are sometimes called, is the name given to aasimars who are descended from peri.
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Peri
Outsider Good, Native
Alignment NG
Peris are native to the good-aligned Outer Planes, but they are also often found in the company of mortals on the Material Plane. They do penance for the sins of their fallen angel ancestors to earn a place in paradise, and work tirelessly to aid mortal heroes against evil.
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Nirvana
Denizens Peris
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Aasimar
Aasimar
Origins
Most aasimars alive in Golarion today are not, in fact, direct descendants of celestials, but are generated from holy blessings or the leftover energies of holy places. If they do descend from celestial beings, their ancestry is at least one step removed from the original introduction of that blood: the child of a union of a mortal with a celestial being is a half-celestial, not an aasimar. Aasimars may be born from the union of the half-celestial with another mortal being. The possibility of an aasimar birth continues to many generations after that union, even when two mortals have children, so long as one of the mortals is a direct descendant of the half-celestial. Although half-celestial creatures come in many shapes and forms, aasimars are only born from humanoids.
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Angel
The term "angel" is sometimes used as a catch-all term for any sort of good outsider, especially one like the azatas, archons, or agathions, but for the purpose of this article, the term will only refer to true angels,[3] such as the following types listed in order of ascending power and importance:
Note: Peris are not part of the list so I am assuming they are not true angels.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-Aasimar/#TOC- Peri-Blooded-Emberkin-
Outsider (native)
Alignment NG
Peri-Blooded (Emberkin)
Emberkin reveals their divine heritage through their skill with fire-based magic and their desire to repent for others’ sins. Many emberkin suffer from frequent nightmares and strange impulses to commit spontaneous acts of evil. They typically have igneous features such as wispy auburn hair and bright yellow eyes, and a rare few are born with albino skin. Emberkin often feel an insatiable need to continually perform acts of good. Some are content to perform small acts of kindness at home, though they may feel driven to travel regularly in order to find pockets of true evil that they can eradicate.
Like all Aasimars, emberkin are not necessarily compelled to embrace good and justice. Perhaps more so than most of their celestial kith, emberkin have a propensity to revolt against their benevolent predisposition and instead follow a darker path. Perhaps these emberkin are evil by nature, or perhaps it is a remnant of their fallen angel ancestry. Either way, such wicked individuals are often dangerous, and are both pitied and hunted down by their aasimar brethren.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/peri
Outsider Good, Native
Alignment NG
Peri
Peris are a race of celestials native to the good-aligned Outer Planes, but they are also often found in the company of mortals on the Material Plane. Believed to be the descendants of fallen angels, peris do penance for their ancestors’ sins before they can earn a place in paradise. As a result, peris work tirelessly to aid and support good heroes of the mortal realms in a never-ending battle against evil. Peris hate the evil fiends known as divs, who constantly seek to ruin the good works of mortals. Peris often work to repair damage wrought by the destructive divs. For their part, the divs take great pleasure in tormenting and persecuting peris, locking the fiery-winged celestials in cages of cold iron and endlessly torturing them.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/angel/
Fallen Angels
Many religions include stories of angels rebelling against a creator or becoming corrupt and evil. Sadly, this is indeed possible, though thankfully rare, and only the proudest or weakest-willed angels succumb to this fate. Fallen angels are exiles of the good realms, hunted by their former brethren and easy targets for fiends as well. The fallen lose some of the grace and light of their untainted kin, though many are said to still be tragically beautiful. Rarer still are those fallen angels strong and clever enough to join the legions of Hell, and who are often transformed into some type of devil, or those who become demons of the Abyss and carve out a niche in that horrible realm or come to serve a greater demon.
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2nd Edition
https://2e.aonprd.com/Monsters.aspx?ID=1262
CELESTIAL FIRE
Alignment CG
Though they eschew servitude and the worship of gods, many peris consider themselves friends and allies of Atreia, the Lambent King, the imprisoned elemental lord of fire. They guard and conceal his holy sites from his enemies and send mortals out in search of his prison, the Garnet Brand, hoping to bring the benevolent force of exalted light and fire back into the multiverse.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=2283
Emberkin
A peri's roaring spirit burns in your soul. Peris engage in constant struggle to right the wrongs of their fallen forebears, and that struggle has been passed on to you. You have a direct impulse to right wrongs and better the world. You gain a +1 circumstance bonus to saving throws against fire effects, and your perception is unaffected by non-magical flames, fog and smoke.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=23
Celestial
Creatures that hail from or have a strong connection to the good-aligned planes are called celestials. Celestials can survive the basic environmental effects of planes in the Outer Sphere.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=72
Fire
Effects with the fire trait deal fire damage or either conjure or manipulate fire. Those that manipulate fire have no effect in an area without fire. Creatures with this trait consist primarily of fire or have a magical connection to that element. Planes with this trait are composed of flames that continually burn with no fuel source. Fire planes are extremely hostile to non-fire creatures.
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Difference between editions. Peri now use the Celestial trait (Outsider no longer being in use in 2e) instead and are Chaotic Good instead of Neutral Good. They also have the Fire trait.
2nd Edition still acknowledges the fact that Emberkin are descendants of Peri and themselves descendants of fallen, although they do not specify which creature has fallen, but I think we can make an educated guess that they are fallen angels.
We know that Aasimars are not half angel in 1st Edition, the 2nd is very vague but I have the feeling we are not supposed to be Half Angel either.
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My questions;
1- How did the Peris come to exist?
2- Are they half-Celestial themselves ?
Peris refer to the fallen as their ancestor, and even then, some say believe to be descendants which alludes to the fact that there have been so many generations of them that the truth has been forgotten.
3- In this case, would it be correct to assume that Peris were generally born of two fallen (Angels)?
4- and future generations were born of Two Peris?
5- I would assume them to be born of two peris, because if they were born from a humanoid and a Half-Celestial or Peris, wouldn't that make them essentially Aasimar themselves?
But then the lack of examples of Fallen angels aside from Eisbeth and a few Devil, leads me to believe that there may not have been any other Fallen angel to procreate with, which leads me to believe that Peris were the progeny of Fallen Angel and humanoid.
Which would make them at best Half Celestial and eventually Aasimar. I just find it weird that there is a distinction between Aasimar Emberkin and the Peris when by definition they are the same, if you assume that they are themselves also descendants of both Celestial and Humanoid.
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Erinys
Erinyes—also known as fury devils, the Ash Wings, the Fallen, fallen angels, the Furies of Hell,[1] or simply the Furies—are fiends created in mockery of the angelic form with a beauty that belies their utterly sadistic, evil nature. They are the avengers and executioners of Hell.
6- Was there ever any intention to connect the Peris to the Erinyes?
Bonus question
Lastly I also have been reading about Valkyrie, River of Soul and Monitor which is a trait that represents being from the neutral outer plane. I understand that depending on which deity a creature was worshiping she would be sent to a different plane, and petitioners of exceptional quality may be chosen as warriors by a deity of that plane. Like an Angel or a Valkyrie for example.
7- Theoretically, Could a Peris who died being CN and worshiping Gorum have been reborn as a Valkyrie?
8 - What about a fallen Valkyrie, if angel can fall, Valkyrie can probably fall too. Could a Peri be descendant from a Fallen Valkyrie?
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Ooh, an interesting lore question with citations! This should probably be in the setting thread below, but I'll still bite.
Many of these questions I feel don't have established answer yet, or may never.
1- Unclear; we know likely that most fallen angels were those who chose to follow Asmodeus' exodus to Hell. How and whether peri relate to them is unknown.
2,3,4,5- I can't say for sure. I'm inclined to believe they are not half-mortal, but I don't know a lot of details about how celestial reproduce among themselves except when new ones arise from ascended souls. I don't know how many explicitly fallen angels there remain in the setting, but the original devils were likewise created from fallen angels, so I believe at this distant age there could well have been sufficient population for fallen-fallen pairs to spawn the original generation of peri.
6- Erinyes exemplify the distant history of devils as fallen angels but aside from that I don't think there's any particular link.
7- if I understand correctly, immortals (ie outsiders, celestials, monitors, fiends) do not go before Pharasma when they die. Merely their quintessence breaks down and flow back into the planes, crumbling back into terrain or flowing into the Maelstrom's antipode depending on circumstance.
8- Valkyrie are not angels, so whether an evil-turned valkyrie becomes something special is unclear. Likely they would be something different if anything at all; the difference between good and evil doesn't matter as much to an aeser.
Ooh, an interesting lore question with citations! This should probably be in the setting thread below, but I'll still bite.
Many of these questions I feel don't have established answer yet, or may never.
1- Unclear; we know likely that most fallen angels were those who chose to follow Asmodeus' exodus to Hell. How and whether peri relate to them is unknown.
2,3,4,5- I can't say for sure. I'm inclined to believe they are not half-mortal, but I don't know a lot of details about how celestial reproduce among themselves except when new ones arise from ascended souls. I don't know how many explicitly fallen angels there remain in the setting, but the original devils were likewise created from fallen angels, so I believe at this distant age there could well have been sufficient population for fallen-fallen pairs to spawn the original generation of peri.
6- Erinyes exemplify the distant history of devils as fallen angels but aside from that I don't think there's any particular link.
7- if I understand correctly, immortals (ie outsiders, celestials, monitors, fiends) do not go before Pharasma when they die. Merely their quintessence breaks down and flow back into the planes, crumbling back into terrain or flowing into the Maelstrom's antipode depending on circumstance.
8- Valkyrie are not angels, so whether an evil-turned valkyrie becomes something special is unclear. Likely they would be something different if anything at all; the difference between good and evil doesn't matter as much to an aeser.
Thank you for taking the time to answer,
for number 7 I must say I was going on the my assumption that peri are in fact no different than assimar even though they are identified as Celestial, but yes I guess it makes sense in the sense that they are Celestial their soul and body are 1 so there isn't a sepparation.
For number 8 I was going on the idea of a servitor falling from the grace of the Deity they serve, they would be their own thing but essentially would the're be a difference. I was sort of assuming that Monitor serve the same function as Celestial but for the Neutral outer planes. So I assume that falling fram grace of their Deity would have a process that is the Monitor version of losing connection to their Deity and all that it entails.
7- As mentioned by Sibelius, unless told otherwise assume that an immortal creature who dies is permanently deleted. What makes mortals special is that their physical body and souls are not fused.
8- No peris wouldn't be born from fallen valkyries. The reason being that valkyries are almost exclusively chaotic neutral female warriors from the maelstrom. It also wouldn't be the lawful variant given those are dwarfs who got a very specific alternate condition.
8.5- While many creatures can "fall" that...
7- Yes as I wrote in my second post I did say I was going on the assumption (as stupid as it was) that Peris even though classified as Celestial are in fact Half breed or just human with angel Lineage, that they are mortal themselves, and so would be able to be petitioner.
So I don't know if anyone in the community ever thinks of things like that maybe its just my crazy brain going crazy but, so most of the names of found in the bestiary are I am assuming meant IRL for us as classification but in lore they are humanoid words used to described the world they see. Maybe scribes, erudites , intellectual writting down their assumption and discoveries for future generation. Generals and Kings and commanders writting in their journal what new tribe of people and wildlife they have come in contact with. And so where I am going with this? A rant that where lol. Anyways what I am getting at is that Peri(s) is just a word and looking at the lore. There is nothing that actually point at any difference as far as genetic are concerned. Or even transformation. It isn't clear that their ancestor angel didn't have flamy wings. Their biggest differences are their alignement or propensity for evil but as far as I'm concerned any creature could change aligment if there is a will and if the need present itself.
To me, Peris is either one of two things, its either a word use by humanoid or some other sapient intelligent race who has classified the progeny of fallen angels as peris with an etymology that may have been lost through the ages or maybe one of the first humanoid to interact with them where told by a group of them that they refer to themselves as such maybe a word with a Positive inclination to their circumstances such as The liberated or the free or a word of bad inclination like, the fallen or something to that effect in shame of their circumstances. Like their cross to bear, a way to humble themselves and remember where they came from. But are they really different creatures? And then you might say well, if they aren't, why even bother making a bestiary entry. Well that is a good question. I don't have a good answer to. But I stand my ground on that particular issue that it isn't clear to me at all that Peris are a genetically different creature than their forebears. I think that they are just are progeny of a group of evil angel who dwell on the material plane trying to do the most with their current predicaments.
To your point of 8 and 8.5 also. My logic was in the sense of 2nd edition they are now Chaotic Good and say a creature is pull toward evil and is constantly trying to do good but evil as a sway over them, would it be such a strech to find a Peri in the Chaotic Neutral instead of Chaotic Good. Right in the middle wanting to do both. Finding the most comfortable position to be in the middle. Also as mention above as far as I am concerned Peris is just a humanoid word for fallen I don't think the peris are actually a different creature then their ancestor. And now thinking again about Ragathiel and how Dispater himself was believe to be once an Angel. Makes me think that being a devil doesn't actually mean you are a different race. Dispater must still genetically be an angel for him to be able to father an Angel. Not a half angel mind you. So Devil may be like the word Sith like it was use in the old Star Wars expanded universe where initially may have refer to the inhabitants of a planet with red skin and all that but eventually became an umbrella term to refer to any Dark Jedi. So a Devil may also be an umbrella term to refer to any outsider creature of a substancial power dwelling in Hell. With most if not all creature being Lawful evil.
7- Yes as I wrote in my second post I did say I was going on the assumption (as stupid as it was) that Peris even though classified as Celestial are in fact Half breed or just human with angel Lineage, that they are mortal themselves, and so would be able to be petitioner.
I would not say the assumption was stupid. The celestial tag only necessarily means that it is a creature infused with the raw energy of quintessential goodness. There are, for example, creatures with the fiend tag which are nonetheless not evidently themselves pure fiends created from the union of soul energy with planar quintessence, but which would seem to have a body of flesh and be descended from mortals. These include night hags, moon hags, and even the hellbound attorney--a mortal human in a contract with a devil who has themselves gained both the fiend and devil tags.
Clearly, extraplanar genetics are not always straightforward. It is theoretically possible that peris could descend from a mortal ancestry and fallen angels, but I would then wonder which mortal and why they are not explicitly called out. As we have seen in other circumstances, a creature which is half-celestial is still half-mortal, much like a half-elf is both elf and human.
I think it is clear however that not all these terms are pure etymology, or at least, that the etymology has meaningful impact on such extraplanar creatures. Devil cannot simply be a word that refers to the outsiders from Hell as there are at least 3 families of fiends that live in Hell, and other types which belong to no family (for example the hellhound). I don't think we can simplify outsiders to pure genetics; not when an erinys, a osyluth, and an imp are all equally fiends and devils.
I don't think it's a thing that happens very commonly anymore, but it seems to me that the various planar families can rarely transform from one into another. Certainly the qlippoth Dagon has transformed into a demon. The asura Geryon has become a devil. The fact that Dis was once an angel I think remains relevant to who he is, but he also doesn't have a mortal biology so if he indeed can be said to have genes, it would be something inscribed upon his soul, as a part of his identity rather than his physiology.
It's worth noting that peris are not described as having a tendency toward evil so much as a tendency toward mischief, which is likely what bends them to Chaos even as they maintain their benevolence.