Level 5 Thaumaturge Build Advice

[Omry Bass]

Hi all.

My group are starting to play old Ravenloft adventures and modules converted to Pf2 in a few weeks and I've chosen to play a Thaumatuge.

Our GM noted that the game will be heavy with social and "research" activities and although there wont be a huge amount of combat encounters, the ones we'll have will be challenging.

We're starting at level 5 and playing with ABP and Free Archtypes.

The rest of the group are playing:

*Thief Rogue which intends to start with Medic and then advance to Shadowdancer

*Monk which is still not sure what to take

*Supportive caster which might be cleric / druid / witch / oracle, he haven't decided yet.

So I'm quite thorn between 2 options of being a frontliner which also supports the party and is incharge of "knowledge":

1. Taking the Tome + Regalia implements and the Martial Artist archtype for Gorilla Stance. That way I could hold both passive implements and gain a massive boost to skills while being able to provide rather strong unarmed attacks, grapple and have some advantage climbing if needed. Martial Artist also provides later great feats which I'll surely take.

2. Taking the Tome + Weapon implements, using flickmace and the Marshal archtype for Inspiring stance. That way I would have an AOO against the target of my EW, provide status bonus to attack for me and the other frontliners, have reach and have a neat critical specialization.

In both cases I chose to invest in Athletics, Diplomacy and Intimidation for demoralizing / bon-mot depending on the enemies, along with detecting weaknesses. Outside of combat I'll probably be the main face + knowledge gatherer.

I have armor proficiency at level 1 (Versetile Human) and plan to take the Sentinel archtype at later stages and maybe Infinite Eye Psychic for some meaty cantrips / focus spells.

Class Feat choices up to level 5:

1 - Diverse lore + Scroll Thaumaturgy

2 - Talisman Esoterica

4 - Breached Defences

Thats it - would welcome any comments and opinions. Merry Xmas, happy holidays and a great new year!

[gesalt]

The second setup is the stronger one, of course. Consider the sleepwalker archetype to give yourself a big boost to out of combat skill checks. Also, don't be afraid to ignore your class feats to keep taking archetype feats. Lots of value to be had in cramming sentinel, sleepwalker, champion, psychic and more all in a single character.

[Omry Bass]

gesalt wrote:

The second setup is the stronger one, of course. Consider the sleepwalker archetype to give yourself a big boost to out of combat skill checks. Also, don't be afraid to ignore your class feats to keep taking archetype feats. Lots of value to be had in cramming sentinel, sleepwalker, champion, psychic and more all in a single character.

Thanks!

I'll skip sleepwalker but intend to the the rest of what you said. Level 6 is scroll esoterica, and then 8-10 will bloster my archtypes even more (Plus level 9 multitalented).

[Omry Bass]

One more thing - Do you think its better to take Regalia + Weapon or Tome + Weapon for the second setup?

[gesalt]

Paragon tome + adept weapon is the preferred setup for skill use. Typically you grab weapon at 1, tome at 5 then adept tome at 7 to keep up with skill scaling.