How many times can we sell our empty hands - flat-footed edition


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So I recently noticed an interesting synergy.

- Barbarians get a feat called Come And Get It. It's a single action that adjusts the way that your rage functions until you stop raging. It's potentially okay, if a bit niche, but it comes with a really nice follow-on feat. Great. One of the changes is that it makes you flat-footed while it's in effect.

- Oracles get some potentially very cool revelation spels, but those things trigger curses. That's something that you can work with to a degree as a full Oracle, but for archetype Oracles it's worse. Every time you use them in a day after the first, you wind up flat-footed for the rest of the fight.

Flat-footed doesn't stack with itself.

So the question here is twofold.
- First, is there a real synergy here? Are there any revelation spells that would be particularly appealing to the kind of barbarian who might reasonably take (and use) Come And Get It? FA builds are fine, if that's what it takes.
- Second, is there anything else out there that has the PC voluntarily going flat footed for some other pertinent advantage? Any way we could usefully stack those?

At the moment, the best I've got is a crazy Torch Goblin with Incendiary Aura. He's willing to throw down with anyone at any time, and Really Likes Fire. It's not terrible, but it's not really more than a flavor build yet.


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Incendiary aura is nice on a fire dragon barbarian. Scouring rage to set ablaze everyone around you and trigger the effect on every strike. Call to arms isn't bad if you want to go more support with your focus spell. Obviously, nothing with a save is gonna be worthwhile. Life oracle's can share your large health pool with your allies, and time oracles spell is quite good at supporting. Not a lot of direct synergy with them. The outlier is probably incendiary aura with scouring rage.

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