Psychic Cantrip-Telekinetic Rend


Rules Discussion

Grand Lodge

Range 60 feet; Area: 2 non-overlapping 5-foot bursts

Does this mean that (1) the two 5' bursts can be in non-adjacent squares as long as they are both within 60' of the caster?
Or (2) the two 5' bursts need to be adjacent?

I would normally assume 2, but the Cantrip REDISTRIBUTE POTENTIAL specifies Area" 2 adjacent 5' squares.

(1) would make it a lot more versatile, but it seems a little too good for a 1st level cantrip.

Anybody else have any insight?

Grand Lodge

The base squares can't be adjacent, because then the bursts would overlap, and that's what it says you can't do.

Psi cantrips are supposed to be a little too good. Remember that psi cantrips that actually come from the spell list are a little better for you, too.


Yes, the burst areas can be completely separated from each other.

Personally I allow the areas to overlap if the player wants to do that, but the overlapped area would only be affected once. A bit of a quality of life houserule.

And as far as balance: yes - having more powerful cantrips is the benefit given for having fewer spell slots than other casters.


Aristophanes wrote:

Range 60 feet; Area: 2 non-overlapping 5-foot bursts

Does this mean that (1) the two 5' bursts can be in non-adjacent squares as long as they are both within 60' of the caster?
Or (2) the two 5' bursts need to be adjacent?

I would normally assume 2, but the Cantrip REDISTRIBUTE POTENTIAL specifies Area" 2 adjacent 5' squares.

(1) would make it a lot more versatile, but it seems a little too good for a 1st level cantrip.

Anybody else have any insight?

You are talking about two different spells. The details of one does not effect the details of the other.

Yes they are very good but they are restricted to Pyschic and multiclass Pyschic. They can't be taken as normal cantrips and you need a specific ability to get them. They are comparable to focus spells when amped.


Ah. Good catch. I hadn't noticed that the OP was also talking about a different cantrip.

Yes, Redistribute Potential does have to be two adjacent squares. And only those two squares. It is a very similar area to the area of Scatter Scree.

A 5 foot square area is very much different than a 5 foot burst area. A 5 foot square is one square. A 5 foot burst is four squares in a 2x2 pattern.

Grand Lodge

Am I correct in interpretating that the two bursts could be as much as 120' apart? Or do they need to be within 60' of each other?

And another stupid question: Does the total effect of the spell need to be within 60' of the caster, meaning the center of a 5' burst needs to be within 55', or does the center of the burst just need to be within 60', and so the spell can affect a target 65' away?


Aristophanes wrote:
Am I correct in interpretating that the two bursts could be as much as 120' apart? Or do they need to be within 60' of each other?

There is no restriction that the two bursts need to be within 60 feet of each other.

So the 120 or so feet apart if you cast them on opposite sides of the caster should be fine.

Aristophanes wrote:
And another stupid question: Does the total effect of the spell need to be within 60' of the caster, meaning the center of a 5' burst needs to be within 55', or does the center of the burst just need to be within 60', and so the spell can affect a target 65' away?

That is a very heavily debated ruling.

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