Gather elements fix


Kineticist Class

Sczarni

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Imo a lot of action issues would be fixed if gather elements was just a free action that gave bonuses while active and those bonuses vanish when you use it with overflow.


I feel like both of those together is a bit much.

Sczarni

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Guntermench wrote:
I feel like both of those together is a bit much.

Depends on what the bonuses are. You can't say it's a bit much without knowing what they are.

The bonuses act as a passive that you "use up" instead of actions.


I can definitely say going from a 1 action does 1 thing ability to a free action that does multiple things is probably a bit much.

Sczarni

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Guntermench wrote:
I can definitely say going from a 1 action does 1 thing ability to a free action that does multiple things is probably a bit much.

Meanwhile people are suggesting removing 1 action from every impulse and you seem fine with this?


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I don't think that's a good solution either.

Sczarni

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Guntermench wrote:
I don't think that's a good solution either.

What's a good solution then so we aren't spending 5 actions to do a cantrip worth of damage?


Make Gather Elements a free action if you take damage, and then make them a +12 HP class.

Sczarni

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

What if Gather elements..

Activated the stone shield being raised

Did something else for the other elements on part with Stone Shield.

But it literally just had it built in? So instead of gathering elements, then raising a shield, using two actions.. It just cost 1 action to gather elements and raise a shield for the earth kineticist only.

And as long as gather elements was active, that added bonus was active.

Give each other element their own unique "gather element" ability that is at level 1 and I think it would be pretty flavorful and cool.


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I think bare minimum there should be a feat that's effectively Running Reload.

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