Do Staves act as Spell Focuses for Primal casters


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Spell Foci are used by Primal Casters as a component to replace the somatic components to cast spells. Primal casters usually use one made of holly/mistletoe. If I am in possession of a magical staff (ie Staff of Fire), can I use the staff instead of a couple twigs to cast my spell?


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If following the rules properly, no. Those would be separate items.

And it is Druids that use Focus components for their primal spells, not Primal tradition casters in general. Sorcerer/Witch/Summoner using primal tradition doesn't have that benefit.

I don't remember if Druid gets something similar to Cleric's Emblazon Armament or not. But that is what you would need in order to make a staff/weapon/shield also work as your focus component.

But in casual games I am not overly strict about spellcasting components to begin with.


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breithauptclan wrote:

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I don't remember if Druid gets something similar to Cleric's Emblazon Armament or not. But that is what you would need in order to make a staff/weapon/shield also work as your focus component.
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The closest they can get is a Verdant Weapon. That can't be made into a Staff of Fire, but it could be made into a staff (weapon) like a +1 striking, flaming staff.


breithauptclan wrote:

And it is Druids that use Focus components for their primal spells, not Primal tradition casters in general. Sorcerer/Witch/Summoner using primal tradition doesn't have that benefit.

Sorcerer gets to replace material components with somatic components because magical blood.

Summoner gets to replace material components with somatic components because magical link to Eidolon.

As a Witch, I just have to use the material components. I don't even have access to Eschew Materials like a Wizard, and the magical link to familiar isn't sufficient. You should step it up Farien.


Would you pay a familiar ability to be allowed to replace material components with somatic components?


Debatable. It is at least better than nothing though. Would be useful if my hands are full.

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Material component pouches cost 5 silver, it's not worth a Familiar feat. Just buy the pouch.


That isn't the problem. I have a component pouch.

But if one hand is holding my shortbow and the other is holding a wand, then I don't have a hand available for using the component pouch.

It isn't a common problem, so it still probably isn't worth using a familiar ability on. But just having a component pouch won't fix the problem when it does come up.

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