Weapon Dices


Rules Discussion


Hi there,

Got some doubts about weapon dices and related feats.

Stuff like "power attack" or "Megaton Strike" would give extra dices which count as weapon dices for all purposes, like:

- Fatal trait ( the extra dice given by the 2 feats are going to increase to match the fatal size ).

- Feats involving weapon dices ( like the Dwarven "telluric power ) would also consider the extra dices added by either the fatal trait and the "power attack" or "megaton Strike" feat, right?

Is this right or did I misunderstood, or also missed, any rule?


Counting Damage Dice wrote:
Effects based on a weapon’s number of damage dice include only the weapon’s damage die plus any extra dice from a striking rune. They don’t count extra dice from abilities, critical specialization effects, property runes, weapon traits, or the like.

- Damage, CRB pg. 279

I'm not sure about Fatal scenario but for Telluric Power the answer is definitely no.


Agreed with Onkonk. I'm not 100% sure about whether fatal increases the die size of extra dice from abilities like power attack, though personally I've always ruled that they do, but when it comes to abilities that do something based on the number of damage dice, then the counting damage dice rules apply, which very clearly only allow for the weapon's base number of damage dice based on what, if any, striking rune they have.


HumbleGamer wrote:

Hi there,

Got some doubts about weapon dices and related feats.

Stuff like "power attack" or "Megaton Strike" would give extra dices which count as weapon dices for all purposes, like:

- Fatal trait ( the extra dice given by the 2 feats are going to increase to match the fatal size ).

- Feats involving weapon dices ( like the Dwarven "telluric power ) would also consider the extra dices added by either the fatal trait and the "power attack" or "megaton Strike" feat, right?

Is this right or did I misunderstood, or also missed, any rule?

Fatal increases the size of the weapon damage dice. Therefore effects that rely on the size of the weapon damage dice should have the same increase.

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