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Hello, I have a question about petrified condition and about teleportation effect or disintegrate.
You become an object with a Bulk double your normal Bulk (typically 12 for a petrified Medium creature or 6 for a petrified Small creature), AC 9, Hardness 8, and the same current Hit Points you had when alive. You don’t have a Broken Threshold. When you’re turned back into flesh, you have the same number of Hit Points you had as a statue. If the statue is destroyed, you immediately die.
If the statue is destroyed, is it when the Hit Points falls to zero ?
Dimension door :
you instantly transport yourself and any items you're wearing and holding from your current space to a clear space
Is it possible to use dimension door if the character is holding the statue of a petrified opponent ?
Disintegrate :
An object you hit is destroyed (no save), regardless of Hardness, unless it's an artifact or similarly hard to destroy.
Is it possible to disintegrate a petrified opponent ?
Thanks for your future help.
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An item (or object) is destroyed when its HP reaches 0.
Teleporting with a statue depends on your strength score - You can't hold or carry more Bulk than 10 plus your Strength modifier (you can drag a larger item, but that doesn't count as holding it). To be able to hold a petrified medium creature, you need a +2 strength modifier minimum to meet the max bulk capacity of 10 + str mod(assuming you aren't carrying any other bulk, otherwise you will need a higher strength modifier) - just touching or holding onto an item doesn't count as the item being held, "an item you are holding" refers to something you have actually picked up.
Disintegrate automatically destroys objects, and a petrified opponent is an object, so yes, it destroys a petrified creature outright (as they die if their petrified object form is destroyed).
edit: note that even if you can hold the statue, you will be encumbered if it is more than 5 + your str mod
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And this is why the incapacitation trait exists ;)
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My question on the dimension door and other teleportation effects is that they usually list that you can't take another creature with you. Does a petrified creature still also count as a creature? Or can you game the system by petrifying someone, teleporting them along with you, then unpetrifying them?
At least 12 spell levels. Flesh to Stone does have Incapacitation on saves after the first one, and you need enough fails or critical fails to get them all the way petrified, which isn't guaranteed even if you allow the target to worsen their result by one step (similar to what's suggested in the Gliminal sidebar).
I'm aware that it is a high cost, low probability gimmick. But it is still allowing something that is otherwise expressly forbidden by the game rules. Should it still be allowed anyway?
I also don't see the ambiguity, here. Teleporting a statue with Dimension Door is not bringing a creature with you.
Well, I'm not entirely convinced. But I'll let it drop. It certainly isn't worth debating extensively.
I certainly agree that it is extremely unlikely to ever come up in an actual game.
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Well, I'm not entirely convinced. But I'll let it drop. It certainly isn't worth debating extensively.
I certainly agree that it is extremely unlikely to ever come up in an actual game.
It could be used as a neat Oceans 11 style heist gimmick though. I'm imagining a situation where some sort of art collector has various busts and statues of fabled heroes, one of which just happens to be an easily impersonated Halfling... Hijinks ensue.
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Do remember:
Shrink Item exists for your petrifying, trophy collecting, serial killer needs.
And when the heroes tracked the the disappearances back to his villainous basement lair and put an end to his evil machinations, there they found not only the miniaturized petrified remains of his many victims, but also what looked like maps and tomes about a fictional land, and the creative beginnings of some sort of new game's rule set.
Do remember:
Shrink Item exists for your petrifying, trophy collecting, serial killer needs.
When the heroes finally tracked the disappearances to the dastardly villain's subterranean lair and put a stop to his evil machinations, not only did they find the miniaturized, petrified remains of his numerous victims, they also uncovered several maps and tomes detailing a fictional world, pouches of polyhedral gemstones engraved with numbers, and what appeared to be the creative beginnings of a new game's rule set.
Odd. I thought the forum monster ate my original post.
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When the heroes finally tracked the disappearances to the dastardly villain's subterranean lair and put a stop to his evil machinations, not only did they find the miniaturized, petrified remains of his numerous victims, they also uncovered several maps and tomes detailing a fictional world, pouches of polyhedral gemstones engraved with numbers, and what appeared to be the creative beginnings of a new game's rule set.Do remember:
Shrink Item exists for your petrifying, trophy collecting, serial killer needs.
"Gary Gygax, you're under arrest."
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