Daze is not a good base for a Psi Cantrip


Psychic Class


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Daze is, by every metric, terrible. The base cantrip does laughable damage and only gets something on the rare critical failure. I think this is a case of putting lipstick on a pig, I'm worried no matter what sort of Amp effect they ultimately create, the raw base effect of Daze is going to make it a pretty bad option.

I think Daze should be replaced entirely, with something that would be worth casting unamplified, something that has decent damage, or a better effect on a failed save. Especially considering the direction of Psychic, we are going to be spamming these spells, it needs to be something better than Daze


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The solution is just to give Psychic a better Daze, imo. But yes, it has serious issues with damage output and scaling. The other cantrips with that scaling are all AoE after all, and even then they're iffy because it's so low.


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I agree, I think daze as written just doesn't do a good job as a cantrip, but I don't think the psychic can fix that for everyone, but they CAN make it better for themselves.


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The solution would be to errata it as a result of the playtest finding. Improve the base cantrip and then add a new amp to improved base

That won’t happen. It doesn’t seem like they will touch the core stuff now. But something like this would be a good opportunity to as it highlights such things


I don't think you can't make anything from Daze. The current direction, with amped Daze giving bonuses through weaknesses is nice. The only issue is that the buff is ridiculous. If it was giving a real weakness, like what is considered minimum weakness (level / 2 + 2) on a success and maximum weakness (level + 2) on a critical success, it would be extremely interesting. The combo between an Amped Daze and an Alchemist with Dread Ampoules would be excellent.

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