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For some reason I was under the assumption that twisting tree was intended to be dex based. Am I forgetting something that makes dex a preferable stat for using a staff over str? Is it monk that gets to use dex that I'm mistakenly mixing in?
Just for context I was playing with pathbuilder and (under the above assumption) I made a goblin twisting tree magus with 12, 12,8,18,16,12 and they had a +4 to hit with the staff at level 1. Which seemed atrocious for a melee even at lvl 1. I know the hybrid study added the agile trait to staff, but for some reason I keep thinking it should have finesse.
For some reason I was under the assumption that twisting tree was intended to be dex based. Am I forgetting something that makes dex a preferable stat for using a staff over str?
Nope.
Is it monk that gets to use dex that I'm mistakenly mixing in?
Not that I am aware of. Bo Staff doesn't have finesse either.
You can always hold a finesse weapon in one hand and the staff in the other. But are you really getting much from it then…
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I know the hybrid study added the agile trait to staff, but for some reason I keep thinking it should have finesse.Huh... so did I. I think i'm do used to seeing agile and finesse paired together than my brain auto-completed it.
Yeah, I think I was making the same connection with agile and finesse, but when it wasn't there my brain had an error.
Now I know for certain, no dex for staff hittin. Although I think it should work.
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I made a goblin twisting tree magus with 12, 12,8,18,16,12
That's a really weird stat array for a goblin magus though?
Generally speaking Strength is going to be your main stat. Unlike a wizard you don't need Intelligence to be at its peak because you use weapons to hit with spells, not spell attacks. Intelligence is nice to have because it's a bit of extra damage with cantrips, but it's very much in second (or third or fourth) place.
Or DEX with finesse weapons. For the same reasons. Offense spells are landed using weapon rolls, not spellcasting stat.
I made a goblin twisting tree magus with 12, 12,8,18,16,12That's a really weird stat array for a goblin magus though?
Generally speaking Strength is going to be your main stat. Unlike a wizard you don't need Intelligence to be at its peak because you use weapons to hit with spells, not spell attacks. Intelligence is nice to have because it's a bit of extra damage with cantrips, but it's very much in second (or third or fourth) place.
Having a good intelligence means that you can use your cantrips as ranged attacks, which will let you trigger Arcane Cascade early on in the fight.
Shield or Messafe will let you trigger Arcane Cascade early in a fight, too. Shield, move, strike is a fine opener.
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I made a goblin twisting tree magus with 12, 12,8,18,16,12That's a really weird stat array for a goblin magus though?
Generally speaking Strength is going to be your main stat. Unlike a wizard you don't need Intelligence to be at its peak because you use weapons to hit with spells, not spell attacks. Intelligence is nice to have because it's a bit of extra damage with cantrips, but it's very much in second (or third or fourth) place.
I donno how I got the stats so out of order. I intended to use 12 str, 18 dex, 12 con, 16 int, 8 wis, 12 cha. But since there is no way to use dex with a staff I would flip str and dex.
If you think about staff fights they are fast paced and involve a lot of mobility, not some beefcake conan-ing their enemies. Still seems weird that staff isn't finesse, but thems the rules.