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I hope this is in the right place.
Looking through the many books of Paizo there is some amazing art done by great artists, so I had a few questions the main one being this:
How can I get a hold of physical copies of some of the full page art pieces. Could paizo maybe sell them as prints or posters, can I go to the artist themselves for copies, which brings me to my next question:
How do you tell who drew what in the books. There are some artists I know I love, but I don't know who they are. There's a list of artists on the book, but it doesn't say what pieces they did as far as I can tell.
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Selling prints of the art would be a great opportunity to market the game. I know I would buy some.
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Selling prints of the art would be a great opportunity to market the game. I know I would buy some.
I agree, I would buy some, and art is a big draw to some people, so seeing some art outside of the books could be a good idea.
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Thank you for the compliment. I suspect much of our art was not ordered in a resolution high enough to make a poster.
And then there is the complexity of shipping. Will you buy a poster that has folds because it is less expensive to ship? Will you double the cost of the poster to pay for shipping in a tube? We've made posters of our products for retailers and there are reasons why they don't get used. So we've had a lot of poster sit in our warehouse over the years. Will creating the poster pay for itself or is this a marketing expense? But never say never. Again, thanks.
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For what it's worth I wouldn't buy any posters with text or logos on it. I would buy just the art itself, not the kind of posters that would be put up in an FLGS. Creases would be a deal-breaker.
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It is like apparel. It is a difficult thing to bring to market in a satisfying way.
There is the Visions of WAR art book, that you can buy right here on Paizo.com.
I know this is probably not what you are looking for, or particularly helpful for that matter, BUT I have seen Wayne Reynolds selling his art at the Paizo booth at GenCon. So maybe next August?
Thank you for the compliment. I suspect much of our art was not ordered in a resolution high enough to make a poster.
And then there is the complexity of shipping. Will you buy a poster that has folds because it is less expensive to ship? Will you double the cost of the poster to pay for shipping in a tube? We've made posters of our products for retailers and there are reasons why they don't get used. So we've had a lot of poster sit in our warehouse over the years. Will creating the poster pay for itself or is this a marketing expense? But never say never. Again, thanks.
I suspected as much. There is a lot to consider, in producing this kind of content. I hadn't seen any discussion of it, so I wanted to ask.
Thanks for a response, it's good to hear from you guys.
A lot of the artists are active on ArtStation...at least, that where I sta...err...follow them :)
There is a print option available through ArtStation, but not all artists make use of it and I'm not sure re the "rights" regarding selling prints. However, this might be a channel worth exploring as it is, effectively, a POD service designed to sell/ship artwork.
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Most commercial artists retain creative copyright which allows them to produce prints of their artwork. Or to sell the original art to a collector for non-commercial purposes. (If the art is created traditionally. Ie; acrylic, oils, ink, etc). The parameters in which they can create and sell prints varies, depending upon the publishing copyright holder. (Some publishers don't allow the sale of prints).
Remember that ALL the artwork you see in game books is copyrighted material, owned exclusively by the company who published the game. (In this case Paizo).
The size of the prints an artist produces can vary. Many contracts stipulate a specific size the prints.
In many cases it’s “8 x “10. In other cases prints aren’t allowed to exceed the original size of the artwork… Although it’s often moot in the case of digital art. Which effectively means an artists could create prints any size they want.
(Most of my paintings are no larger than “12 x “16.5, so any prints I produce tend to be smaller than those dimensions).
If you are wanting art prints, I suggest contacting the artist directly.
You can find a list of artists in the credits section of the rulebooks.
It’s possible to identify an artist by their signature. Otherwise you may have to do some research to track down the creator of the image you like.
(It’s why I recommend new artists to develop an instantly recognisable signature for their art. It makes it easier for the viewer to identify the artist).
Not every artist sells prints.
Personally, I don’t sell prints of my artwork outside of conventions. The massive amount of time I spend creating art doesn’t leave me additional time to produce, parcel and post prints.
However, many artists are now using 2nd party printers such as Inprint, Redbubble or OMA. (If their contracts allow 2nd party printers).
Hope that helps?
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Thanks Wayne, great input!
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Will you buy a poster that has folds because it is less expensive to ship?
I purchased all Dynamite Comics mainly for the art posters that were folded in the back of them, so yes. Paid for shipping on them as well and it didn't bother me at all.
Will you double the cost of the poster to pay for shipping in a tube?
I would be happy to pay more for a tube plus shipping, the creases in my posters which are all individually framed and hung on the wall aren't exactly something I "appreciate" so if I could have had them in a tube I would have happily paid more.
Also, I have NO idea how print on demand could function but if it's sufficiently priced and you can offer more options than simply just paper posters at a higher price I'd much rather get higher quality stock, or better yet print-on-canvas posters to hang. In my mind, it feels like if partnerships can be made then no matter how many or how few are produced there shouldn't be a very serious loss on the project.
It has been discussed of late that such razor-thin margins at Paizo as a whole could use some padding from one area or another and I would be extremely double-plus happy to support this an avenue to help the company raise funds so as to help assist in raising wages for the company as a whole.
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A lot of the artists are active on ArtStation...at least, that where I sta...err...follow them :)
There is a print option available through ArtStation, but not all artists make use of it and I'm not sure re the "rights" regarding selling prints. However, this might be a channel worth exploring as it is, effectively, a POD service designed to sell/ship artwork.
Artstation also requires a minimum of 300 dpi resolution before they're willing to print for you - something a lot of art doesn't meet, or may only meet for some sizes. If an artist goes with the default 20% markup, the smallest print (8x10) costs $18.
But yes, a lot of starfinder artists and some pathfinder artists put their works there.
Thank you for the compliment. I suspect much of our art was not ordered in a resolution high enough to make a poster.
And then there is the complexity of shipping. Will you buy a poster that has folds because it is less expensive to ship? Will you double the cost of the poster to pay for shipping in a tube? We've made posters of our products for retailers and there are reasons why they don't get used. So we've had a lot of poster sit in our warehouse over the years. Will creating the poster pay for itself or is this a marketing expense? But never say never. Again, thanks.
Speaking of which, I've always wanted one of those big STARFINDER posters that ya'll give as promos to FLGSes for my house. How much to get one?
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Speaking of which, I've always wanted one of those big STARFINDER posters that ya'll give as promos to FLGSes for my house. How much to get one?Thank you for the compliment. I suspect much of our art was not ordered in a resolution high enough to make a poster.
And then there is the complexity of shipping. Will you buy a poster that has folds because it is less expensive to ship? Will you double the cost of the poster to pay for shipping in a tube? We've made posters of our products for retailers and there are reasons why they don't get used. So we've had a lot of poster sit in our warehouse over the years. Will creating the poster pay for itself or is this a marketing expense? But never say never. Again, thanks.
The Starfinder Conspectus was a promotional item. I'm working on making them available as a free PDF download.
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I recently bought a print of the Core Rulebook's cover art by Wayne Reynolds. Some assembly was required.
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Most commercial artists retain creative copyright which allows them to produce prints of their artwork. Or to sell the original art to a collector for non-commercial purposes. (If the art is created traditionally. Ie; acrylic, oils, ink, etc). The parameters in which they can create and sell prints varies, depending upon the publishing copyright holder. (Some publishers don't allow the sale of prints).
Remember that ALL the artwork you see in game books is copyrighted material, owned exclusively by the company who published the game. (In this case Paizo).
The size of the prints an artist produces can vary. Many contracts stipulate a specific size the prints.
In many cases it’s “8 x “10. In other cases prints aren’t allowed to exceed the original size of the artwork… Although it’s often moot in the case of digital art. Which effectively means an artists could create prints any size they want.(Most of my paintings are no larger than “12 x “16.5, so any prints I produce tend to be smaller than those dimensions).
If you are wanting art prints, I suggest contacting the artist directly.
You can find a list of artists in the credits section of the rulebooks.
It’s possible to identify an artist by their signature. Otherwise you may have to do some research to track down the creator of the image you like.
(It’s why I recommend new artists to develop an instantly recognisable signature for their art. It makes it easier for the viewer to identify the artist).Not every artist sells prints.
Personally, I don’t sell prints of my artwork outside of conventions. The massive amount of time I spend creating art doesn’t leave me additional time to produce, parcel and post prints.
However, many artists are now using 2nd party printers such as Inprint, Redbubble or OMA. (If their contracts allow 2nd party printers).Hope that helps?
I feel bad quoting this whole thing just to say I wish I had the ability to go to conventions.