Conrasu Monk


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How does it work a conrasu with rite of reinforcement with the monk class?
It's just some kind of "deal with it"?

Would it be the first heritage forbidden from taking a specific class ( because it would have to renounce to the majority of its perks/feats )?

Knowing that on the one hand many feats require the character to be unarmored, but on the other hand the Conrasu, by heritage, is born ( or has been made )with a exoskeleton part of its body.

ps: I know that it's up to the player to take a specific heritage or not during the character creation, but I was specifically wondering what about Reinforced Conrasu


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Nope, taking the Rite of Reinforement heritage as a monk is completely legal. It's just a very bad idea.

The built in breastplate functions just like wearing a breastplate does. Complete with not being able to count yourself as unarmored, and using your medium armor proficiency.

It is definitely a case of "deal with it" not a case if the heritage being forbidden from taking classes that it won't work out well for.


HammerJack wrote:


It is definitely a case of "deal with it" not a case if the heritage being forbidden from taking classes that it won't work out well for.

I agree that, in terms of mechanics, it would be up to the player not to choose that specific heritage.

But in terms of roleplay, a creature with a exoskeleton which works like an armor merged with its skin is somehow forbidden from taking the class.

It somehow reminds me of the ancient elf eldritch trickster.
The only way out is not to take a specific heritage.

Talking about armor proficiency, this would probably be even worse than the ancient elf, since any class non proficient in medium armor would suffer from having an exoskeleton.

Imagine a creature without a class yet.
It has its own carapace or exoskeleton, and because its nature the creature itself is proficient with it. It's at ease as it's part of its own body.

But then we have add the class.
Once you select a spellcaster, for example, BAM.

The creature loses its armor proficiency, and is no longer able to deal with its own body.

Kinda weird.

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HumbleGamer wrote:
But in terms of roleplay, a creature with a exoskeleton which works like an armor merged with its skin is somehow forbidden from taking the class.

They aren't forbidden, they are totally able to do it, it's just not a good idea. You aren't thinking about Conrasu in the right way. They don't make the exoskeleton once and are done with it, they develop it to match their path in life.

If a Conrasu were training to be a monk, it's very likely they would value a mobile exoskeleton over a sturdy one. That said, it's extremely unlikely they would reinforce their exoskeleton to the point that it would hinder their mobility. Rite of Passage may be more what those Conrasu would develop, or even Rite of Invocation with an Occult cantrip to match the Occult magic of their Ki Spells.

Conrasu choose their exoskeleton based on their path, not the other way around like most heritages do.


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Conrasu are also considered very definitively set into roles in their communities, to an extreme degree. Those who develop their exoskeletons to be armor-like would most likely slot themselves into the classes that are proficient in medium armor. To do so otherwise would be outside of their perspective as a culture of creatures.

That + NPCs aren't built exactly like PCs, etc. etc.


Cordell Kintner wrote:
HumbleGamer wrote:
But in terms of roleplay, a creature with a exoskeleton which works like an armor merged with its skin is somehow forbidden from taking the class.

They aren't forbidden, they are totally able to do it, it's just not a good idea. You aren't thinking about Conrasu in the right way. They don't make the exoskeleton once and are done with it, they develop it to match their path in life.

If a Conrasu were training to be a monk, it's very likely they would value a mobile exoskeleton over a sturdy one. That said, it's extremely unlikely they would reinforce their exoskeleton to the point that it would hinder their mobility. Rite of Passage may be more what those Conrasu would develop, or even Rite of Invocation with an Occult cantrip to match the Occult magic of their Ki Spells.

Conrasu choose their exoskeleton based on their path, not the other way around like most heritages do.

Ezekieru wrote:

Conrasu are also considered very definitively set into roles in their communities, to an extreme degree. Those who develop their exoskeletons to be armor-like would most likely slot themselves into the classes that are proficient in medium armor. To do so otherwise would be outside of their perspective as a culture of creatures.

That + NPCs aren't built exactly like PCs, etc. etc.

Oh, that changes everything.

I definitely got stuck on the heritage part.

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