KahnyaGnorc wrote:
The weaker martials (Fighter, Rogue, Chained Monk) could get the archetypes bonuses without the trade-offs.
The stronger martials could get free Martial Training Feats at odd levels starting with 3rd, so they get some free maneuvers and stances but not full stuff. Or, alternately, they could choose the archetypes and get bonus feats at odd levels from 3rd-13th levels.
Here's what I have so far
ALL Martial Classes that are Path of War Initiators will receive it for free. They are limited in max level of maneuvers unless they take Advanced Study. Advanced Study lets them qualify for maneuvers as a Full Initiator Class (They count as full imitator level, and the feet bypasses the Max Level Restriction put in place for this new Base Class Progression I have put in place).
Advanced Study is considered a Fighter Bonus Feat. This way Fighters have advantage to say Palis who get spells because fighters can use feats to access high Level maneuvers.
(Rogues have talents to gain combat feats too)
Level-------Maximum Maneuver Level
1-------1
2-------1
3-------1
4-------2
5-------2
6-------2
7-------3
7-------3
8-------3
9-------4
10-------4
11-------5
12-------5
13-------6
14-------6
15-------6
17-------6
18-------6
19-------6
20-------6
FULL BAB Martial Classes will receive the following progression. They are ALL considered Initiator Classes.
Level--------Maneuvers Known---------Maneuvers Readied---------Stances-
1-------3-------3-------1
2-------4-------3-------1
3-------5-------3-------1
4-------6-------3-------1
5-------6-------3-------1
6-------6-------4-------2
7-------7-------4-------2
8-------7-------4-------2
9-------8-------4-------2
10-------8-------4-------2
11-------9-------5-------3
12-------9-------5-------3
13-------10-------5-------3
14-------11-------5-------3
15-------11-------5-------3
16-------12-------6-------4
17-------13-------6-------4
18-------14-------6-------4
19-------14-------6-------4
20-------15-------6-------4
All 2/3rd Casters will receive the following. They are also considered Initiator Classes. They receive 1 less Spell per Level (Minimum 1 at the level they gain access)
Level--------Maneuvers Known---------Maneuvers Readied---------Stances-
1-------2-------2-------1
2-------2-------2-------1
3-------3-------2-------1
4-------3-------2-------1
5-------3-------2-------1
6-------4-------3-------2
7-------4-------3-------2
8-------4-------3-------2
9-------5-------3-------2
10-------5-------3-------2
11-------5-------4-------3
12-------6-------4-------3
13-------6-------4-------3
14-------6-------4-------3
15-------7-------4-------3
16-------7-------5-------4
17-------7-------5-------4
18-------8-------5-------4
19-------8-------5-------4
20-------8-------5-------4
My only lasting issue of debate at this points seems to be concerns that 2/3rds casters will be paralyzed with options in combat, but, I think this allows 2/3rds caster, like Magus, to focus more on using their spell slots for cool utility than certain staple combat tricks. IE a Magus trains in the Blade, and can use Maneuvers instead of always relying on spell. So they can keep an extra spell slot for Comprehend Languages.
As far as Maneuver Recovery, going with Standard Action Recovers 1: Full Found Action Recovers 2.
