Elemental Ascetic Elemental Flurry and FoB BAB


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Liberty's Edge

Hey, so I have been on the struggle bus for at least 12 hours trying to figure out the best way to make a void elemental ascetic, which I am on the edge of giving up on. But it has brought a question to mind, and I was hoping someone here might know more about it than I do.

Looking at the Elemental Flurry, it says it works as the base monks FoB. In the base monk FoB, the monks BAB for his attacks was equal to his monk levels. Does the same rule apply to the Kineticist BAB? Does it count as the kineticist level instead of the 3/4 BAB? And Since I am asking questions, does the Elemental Ascetic also get the extra attacks at 8th and 11th level? Thanks for any thoughts you all have


Herolab sets it the 3/4 BAB


Herolab has it wrong then.

Quote:
When using the kinetic fist form infusion with a full attack, he can make a flurry of blows as the monk class feature.

Since this is as the monk class feature, they would use their level instead of their bab to determine their attack blows for the flurry.


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"he can make a flurry of blows as the monk class feature." This text means we use the text of the FoB class feature. Since that text says "Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action.", in order for the Kineticist to use it, "monk" must be replaced by "kineticist". And since there is no indication that only a part of the class feature text is used, all of it is used, with all instances of "monk" replaced by "kineticist".

For comparison, the Sacred Fist archetype used to say "At 1st level, a sacred fist can make a flurry of blows attack as a full-attack action. This ability works like the monk ability of the same name." This was later changed to "This ability works like the monk ability of the same name, except the sacred fist’s attack bonus from warpriest levels does not count as his warpriest level.", because as originally written, the BAB part was included. Since Elemental Ascetic has no such limitation, it does get full BAB.

Liberty's Edge

Awesome, I appreciate everyone's insights on this.

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