Non-leathal spell damage for other classes


Rules Discussion

Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Is there a way for other spell casters to do non lethal spell damage like the wizard feat non leather spell

Liberty's Edge

Wizard MC dedication.

Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Thats it the only way?


There are also spells like Daze and Admonishing Ray that deal nonlethal.


Cast a something-form spell and take the -2 penalty when you attack with your claws.

Summon a monster that talks and tell it to attack nonlethally.

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Rant Mode:
I've been trying hard to think of reasons other than "Paizo sucks" why there are so few nonlethal spells. I've come up with two possible answers:

1) They're afraid that people will prep a bunch of nonlethal spells and get angry when their party gets slaughtered by undead. However, spontaneous casters could more easily take both lethal and nonlethal spells - would that change the balance of power between prepared and spontaneous?

2) Players just aren't asking for it often enough. (In the SF COM playtest, one nonlethal spell was the ONLY thing I asked for. I didn't get it.) Likewise, the recent "What spells are we all hoping for in Secrets of Magic?" thread doesn't have anyone (except me just now) hoping for nonlethal damage.

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