
Dairfaron |

For a Magus of an appropriate level, does a single level of the Student of Perfection prestige class suffice as a prerequisite for using the Ki Arcana Magus Arcana?

avr |

Ki Pool (Su): If a student of perfection has levels in a class that grants a ki pool, his student of perfection levels stack with his levels of that class to determine his total number of ki points. If the student of perfection has a ki pool from Perfect Style, he adds his Wisdom modifier to his ki pool. The student of perfection’s ki pool also gains ki strike as per the ki pool of a monk of a level equal to his class level. This stacks with his levels in monk (if any).
Probably not, unless you have perfect style.
Actually, perfect style alone should qualify you, though a pool with a size of 2 is nothing to write home about.

Dairfaron |

Quote:Ki Pool (Su): If a student of perfection has levels in a class that grants a ki pool, his student of perfection levels stack with his levels of that class to determine his total number of ki points. If the student of perfection has a ki pool from Perfect Style, he adds his Wisdom modifier to his ki pool. The student of perfection’s ki pool also gains ki strike as per the ki pool of a monk of a level equal to his class level. This stacks with his levels in monk (if any).Probably not, unless you have perfect style.
Actually, perfect style alone should qualify you, though a pool with a size of 2 is nothing to write home about.
I was actually more worried about this specific part of Ki Arcana: "The magus must be at least 6th level and must have levels in a class that grants him a ki pool before selecting this arcana. "
Is Student of Perfection a class that grants a Ki Pool? I mean, it has the Ki Pool class feature and gives you ki strike and everything.

Derklord |

I don't think Student of Perfection ever helps you qualify. The arcana asks for "levels in a class that grants him a ki pool", and the prestige class doesn't do that - it only modifies an existing ki pool. Either the one from a class, or the ki pool granted by the Perfect Style feat. Since the feat is part of the requirements, it's impossible to enter the prestige class without already having a ki pool, so it would make no sense for the prestige class to grant one.
However, the prereq is weird, as RAW you don't even have to have a ki pool, just levels in Monk or Ninja. I think the prereq should ask for either "a ki pool" or "the ki pool class feature"; for the former, Perfect Style qualifies, for the latter, Student of Perfection does. I presume the latter is the RAI.

Dairfaron |

If all else fails, I can still take a level in Pathfinder Field Agent or Rose Warden and grab the Ki Pool rogue talent.
I always read the prereqs as "you need to have at least one level of a class that gives you a ki pool" where "that" in the relative clause refers to the level, not the class.
That being said, Ki Arcana is from 2013 and at this time you could only gain a Ki Pool by being a monk, Ninja or rogue with the Ki Pool talent (Perfest Style and that one dwarf racial trait came way later), so RAI, I would assume that it was meant as a multiclassing option. With this in mind, i guess my GM would let it fly as I am multiclassing.

Derklord |

I see "a class that grants him a ki pool" as one term. Which also makes Rogue (talents) not qualify.
Like I said, the prereq is weird. The wording is unclear and dysfunctional.
For comparison, there is only one feat prereq that asks for "levels in a class", and that's an NPC feat. All the other class features with such wording ask for a clear thing, e.g. "levels in Monk", or "levels in a spellcasting class". I don't get why the arcana can't just ask for the class feature like basically every other prereq.

Dairfaron |

I see "a class that grants him a ki pool" as one term. Which also makes Rogue (talents) not qualify.
Like I said, the prereq is weird. The wording is unclear and dysfunctional.
For comparison, there is only one feat prereq that asks for "levels in a class", and that's an NPC feat. All the other class features with such wording ask for a clear thing, e.g. "levels in Monk", or "levels in a spellcasting class". I don't get why the arcana can't just ask for the class feature like basically every other prereq.
Sorry for the late reply. RAW, Ki Arcana does absolutely nothing for a Magus as there is a typo in the original printing saying "arcana pool". It really seems to be badly written.