
VoodooMonkey |

So the Shifter archetype Oozemorph suddenly makes this feat a bit more viable.
I was wondering if there has been any official rules or progression into the meta of this!
Ooze Empathy (Ex)
An oozemorph gains the shifter’s wild empathy class feature, but she can use it only to influence the attitude of oozes with an Intelligence score of 2 or lower. An oozemorph can use this ability on mindless oozes; when she does so, she imparts a modicum of intellect to the ooze to allow it to respond to her commands.
This alters wild empathy.
Particularly on the subject of how they came up with the cost of creation for the ones listed on the table and how it would translate on making oozes not listed:
Ooze Type Cost (gp) Craft (alchemy) DC
Gelatinous cube 1,600 16
Gray ooze 3,600 18
Slithering tracker 3,600 18
Ochre jelly 4,900 20
Black pudding 8,100 24
Magma ooze 8,100 24
Deathtrap ooze 8,100 26
Carnivorous crystal 16,900 32
Any thoughts or direction to where any of this has been previously covered?

TeggerTheTank |
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From what I can tell, not really. The Oozemorph, while an interesting idea is usually met with a lot of backlash because of how weak it's considered to be which turns a lot of people away from it. As a result, not a lot has been done with it.
The same thing can be seen with any of the Drake Archetypes. Anyone requesting help with a build is almost always told to play something else without any constructive process.
As for what you want to do with Create Ooze, this is what I came up with for determining cost, but it could be wrong so feel free to share your conclusions.
For cost, I came to the conclusion that it should be calculated as half CR rounded down, multiplied by 100, multiplied by Craft DC.
So Gelatinous Cube with CR 3 is 1 x 100 x 16.
This is how it works for the first three examples. Then for some reason they follow the same equation, but add an arbitrary 900 gold on top of it.
Ochre Jelly has a CR of 5 so the math is (2 x 100 x 20) + 900.
Deathtrap Ooze (CR 8) has a the same cost as magma Ooze and Black Pudding (CR 7), despite having a higher DC and CR so I don't even know what they were thinking with that. But it goes immediately back to the normal equation + 900 for the next example.
If anyone can tell me where the extra 900 gold comes in I'd appreciate it but that's what I came up with.
Edit: Edited because I listed the some wrong info.

Cevah |
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The DC is exactly 2*CR+10. So you can use the DC or the CR.
Since all figures are 100*N*N, it probably uses CR squared.
If you go with (CR+2) squared times 100 you get the same price except with Gelatinous cube (900 too much) and Deathtrap ooze (1900 too much). All other entries match up.
As to having examples that break the rules, that is what editors are for.
cevah