Swiftness and AoO


Rules Discussion


The ability Swiftness states: Swiftness The elemental’s movement doesn’t trigger reactions.

Is Stand, which has the "Move" trait, considered movement? or is just when you actually using one of your movement types such as: flying, stride, climb, swim, burrow, or fall?

Horizon Hunters

Yes, I believe it will prevent any action with the Move trait from triggering reactions.

The problem I have is why is an air elemental needing to Stand?


Cordell Kintner wrote:

Yes, I believe it will prevent any action with the Move trait from triggering reactions.

The problem I have is why is an air elemental needing to Stand?

The problem is not with the Elemental, there's an enemy in one of the Adventure Path, that have the same ability (Scarlet Triad Sniper), so I assume as much, but got into a discussion about movement and the move trait. And that was my doubt...


I do think that movement and Move actions are not exactly the same things.

In the sense that movement is always a move action, but a move action doesnt always give you movement.

Horizon Hunters

For the sake of Attack of Opportunity, it would count. AoO specifically triggers when someone uses an action with the Move trait, or when someone moves out of a square which they threaten. With Swiftness that should also prevent things like standing up since they can do it so quickly it's done before the Fighter even notices.


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Cordell Kintner wrote:
For the sake of Attack of Opportunity, it would count. AoO specifically triggers when someone uses an action with the Move trait, or when someone moves out of a square which they threaten. With Swiftness that should also prevent things like standing up since they can do it so quickly it's done before the Fighter even notices.

That is my understanding as well.

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