Staff acrobat feats and map

[HumbleGamer]

Hi,

I am a little lost for what concerns 2 feats

Staff sweep

Quote:

You sweep your foes away with your staff. Roll an Athletics check to Shove or Trip, and compare the result to the appropriate DCs of up to two foes, each of whom must be within your reach and no more than 5 feet apart.

Pivot strike

Quote:

You Leap and then Strike using your staff. You gain a circumstance bonus to damage for the Strike equal to twice the number of weapon damage dice. Regardless of whether your Strike hit, you can then attempt to Shove or Trip the target.

Any help how to calculate map for the first one after the 2 trip attempts?

And the second one after the strike? And also after the whole sequence?

Finally, Is there a standard rule if nothing is written on the feat?

[Timeshadow]

So after the first dbl trip you will have -5 as it does not have any of the caviots that say this counts as 2 for map.

The second gives a -5 to the shove/trip as you have completed a strike so this will be your second attack.

[Timeshadow]

If you did both together you would trip 2 adjecent targets then vault away and strike another target with -5 map then shove/trip that target with -10 map.

[HumbleGamer]

That's what I thought too.

[Tarpeius]

Interestingly, Pivot Strike is one of the very few feat actions that has the Attack trait itself in addition to subordinate Attack actions. So using it will put you at full MAP regardless of whether you decide to shove or trip.