So, if you take the Feysworn prestige class with obedience to the Lantern King, you'll get a shapechange SLA (10min/lvl duration) at prestige class level 9.
AfaIk, Spell-like abilities always counted as spells for everything that didn't refer to spell levels (that would exclude metamagic and prestige class access, for example).
Precedents for abilities working just well with SLAs include the Augment Summoning and Augment Calling feats, which just mention "spells" in their respective descriptions. Also, Spell Focus, Spell Penetration and their greater versions are generally believed to work on SLAs as well.
So would a ring of continuation trigger on the shapechange spell-like ability?
My first reaction would be yes, since the ring does not interfere with the casting of the spell (and also because of the reasons presented above). And also because of THIS THREAD.
But I may be wrong. Any opinions?
Well, SLAs aren't spells.
The Augment Summoning FAQ doesn't explain why it works with SLAs. It's a one-word answer and they've refrained from stating a general rule, possibly because they're not sure themselves. It's complicated.
But it should probably work.
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Also, just fyi, some Obedience feats have access to the Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel prestige classes in addition to their specific PRC. Those with Fey Obedience (and I think Monitor/Celestial) are allowed to replace the "Deific Obedience" requirement with their respective feat.
Also, just fyi, some Obedience feats have access to the Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel prestige classes in addition to their specific PRC. Those with Fey Obedience (and I think Monitor/Celestial) are allowed to replace the "Deific Obedience" requirement with their respective feat.
I also thought about going Evangelist first, but after doing that already in the last AP, I felt like Evangelist is actually not that cool. And that is, because it gives you way too much for what it costs. It basically gives you a load of new abilities (including a ginormous amount of skill ranks) in trade for one level of base class progression. IMHO it is just not well- designed, because it invalidates a lot of flavorful choices just by being so much better.
Feysworn on the other hand, is a super flavorful prestige class und fits nicely with our upcoming AP. We are starting Reign of Winter next week and I'm already super hyped about it.
Also, just fyi, some Obedience feats have access to the Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel prestige classes in addition to their specific PRC. Those with Fey Obedience (and I think Monitor/Celestial) are allowed to replace the "Deific Obedience" requirement with their respective feat.
Where did you see that?
I am aware that you can take the Deific Obedience feat and use your single list of Fey/Monitor/Celestial/Fiendish/etc. boons as though they were Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel boons, but I don't ever recall seeing anything that said you could actually use a feat like Fey Obedience as a replacement for Deific Obedience for the purpose of qualifying for prestige classes or other feats.
@Dairfaron
Welp, it does give you the absolute worst save progression of them all and messes with your BAB for both d10 and d8 classes. The only real benefit (except the boons) is the Spiritual Form at level 10. Considering that the majority of boons aren't that good I'd say the Evangelist is in a good spot, balance-wise.
@David knott 242
The following Fey Obedience feat allows a worshiper of
an Eldest to gain access to additional resistances and
powers. The feysworn prestige class (see page 8) allows
access to the most powerful boons more quickly. In
addition, characters using the evangelist, exalted, and
sentinel prestige classes from Pathfinder Campaign Setting:
Inner Sea Gods may also use these boons and obediences
in order to gain power from a patron Eldest (all three
classes receive the same boons)
Obediences can yield great boons, particularly to the
most powerful of a monitor demigod’s followers. The
Monitor Obedience feat allows a worshipper to gain
access to additional powers. The evangelist, exalted, and
sentinel prestige classes (Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner
Sea Gods) and the new proctor prestige class (see page 44)
allow access to the most powerful boons more quickly.
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I've understood this to mean that someone with Monitor Obedience can take the Evangelist/Exalted/Sentinel prestige classes, in addition to the Proctor prestige class.
@Dairfaron
Welp, it does give you the absolute worst save progression of them all and messes with your BAB for both d10 and d8 classes. The only real benefit (except the boons) is the Spiritual Form at level 10. Considering that the majority of boons aren't that good I'd say the Evangelist is in a good spot, balance-wise.
Any prepared 9th-level caster benefits a lot from the class, especially a wizard. You lose one spellcasting level, but that still leaves you on par with a sorcerer, who is one level late anyways. But what you get for it are 3 potentially really powerful Deific Boons (there is some crazy sh** out there), Spiritual Form, a minor but useful AC Bonus, and 4 extra skill ranks per level to put into your knowledge skills. Not to mention the higher hit dice, Perception as a class skill and a load of useful weapon and armor proficiencies.
A pretty neat package if you ask me.
Ah, now letting them count as Deific Obedience. I was going by the omission of that language in the Celestial Obedience feat and forgot that the later Obedience feats filled that hole.
I meant for the first sentence in the above post to read, "Ah, thanks for reminding me of the rules for letting these feats count as Deific Obedience."