Summoning low level celestial / Fiends


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So, I totally understand why, in general, the summon celestial/summon fiend spells are hated at 5th level, requesting "troops" from your patron power of choice is not something nobodies should be able to do.

At the same time, I love imps and lantern archons and nosoi and voidworms ect. Are awesome and I have always loved getting one through the improved familiar feat. But now calling one requires a 5th level spell and they only stay a minute which is.... not helpful.

I am trying to think of a way to make these little assistants more accessible but I'm not sure how to go about it, whether it be a summon spell with a unique duration or a ritual or what. How would you guys go about it?


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Presumably, you could probably flavor the make a creature ritual with the costs shown in Table 7-1 in the CRB to summon and bind a creature to you.

So you could easily imagine if you can get to where you could do a 2nd level ritualy, you could potentially be getting a Lemure minion for 15gp, or perhaps an Imp, Cacodaemon, Quasit, Cassisian or Lantern Archon minion for around 60gp and of course the opportunity to pick up the requisite likely rare ritual as well of course.

An yes, this requires the cooperation of your GM, who will likely need to feel like this contributes to the story as a whole. (or at least, doesn't detract from it)


Might want to wait until the Advanced Players Guide comes out.

APG spoilers:
GTM has an APG preview article (link to GTM pdf download) which mentioned APG having rules for specific familiars like Imps. It might be adaptable for other things.


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Paradozen wrote:
Might want to wait until the Advanced Players Guide comes out.** spoiler omitted **

I saw, and am happy to say this thread is no longer relevant. Yay

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