Does a 1-level dip in Serpent-Fire Adept allow you to use the "Ki Arcana" magus arcana?


Rules Questions


Question in the title.

At first level, this monk (a class that grants a ki pool) archetype grants Chakra Initiate as a bonus feat, which in turn grants you a special pool of serpent-fire ki.

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Ki Arcana (Ex) (Magical Marketplace pg. 4): The magus may use points from his arcana pool and ki points from a ki pool granted by another class interchangeably. The magus must be at least 6th level and must have levels in a class that grants him a ki pool before selecting this arcana.

Serpent-Fire Adept

Chakra Initiate


I would say no

"These serpent-fire ki points are replenished at the same time you replenish the points in your regular ki pool"

Serpent-fire ki are different from regular ki pool.

Then I believe that 'ki pool' is specific to the level 4 ability monks gain but without it saying ki pool class feature, I will allow a better mind than I to inform you on that


Minigiant wrote:

I would say no

"These serpent-fire ki points are replenished at the same time you replenish the points in your regular ki pool"

Serpent-fire ki are different from regular ki pool.

Then I believe that 'ki pool' is specific to the level 4 ability monks gain but without it saying ki pool class feature, I will allow a better mind than I to inform you on that

what about the rogue talent that grants you a ki pool?

PRD wrote:
Ki Pool (Ex) (Ultimate Combat pg. 1): A rogue with this talent gains a small ki pool. This ki pool is similar to a ninja’s ki pool, but the rogue’s ki pool does not grant any extra attacks. The rogue gains a number of ki points equal to her Wisdom modifier (minimum 1). These ki points replenish at the start of each day. If she already has a ki pool, or gains a ki pool later, she gains half her Wisdom bonus (minimum 1) as bonus ki points to her ki pool. She can spend a ki point to gain a +10-foot bonus to movement until the end of her turn.


Dairfaron wrote:
Minigiant wrote:

I would say no

"These serpent-fire ki points are replenished at the same time you replenish the points in your regular ki pool"

Serpent-fire ki are different from regular ki pool.

Then I believe that 'ki pool' is specific to the level 4 ability monks gain but without it saying ki pool class feature, I will allow a better mind than I to inform you on that

what about the rogue talent that grants you a ki pool?

Yeah should work

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