Apologies if this has already been asked, but my google fu skills are sucking magnificently right now.
Since the Fighter Bonus feats is a class feature, do you "back-fill" the combat/bonus feats for 1, 2, 4, etc., etc. if you dip into fighter at a later level? I ask because I'm trying a build for maximum dirty trick shenanigans using Battle Oracle and the Cad fighter archetype. And no, I don't want to go Monk Master of AManeuvers as some of the later features don't work with my vision of the character not to mention the personality is absolutely not "lawful" which I'd have to be.
Thank you very much in advance!
No. Bonus feats are no different than skill points, saves, base attack bonus, hit dice or spells. They're not retroactive.
Otherwise, everyone would just take a new class every level. You'd be lvl4 at lvl2, lvl9 at lvl3 and lvl16 by lvl4.
The bonus feats class ability is specific to your fighter class level, not character level. You get bonus feats at FIGHTER LEVEL 1, 2, 4, 6, etc... NOT at character level 1,2,4,6...
RAWmonger wrote: The bonus feats class ability is specific to your fighter class level, not character level. You get bonus feats at FIGHTER LEVEL 1, 2, 4, 6, etc... NOT at character level 1,2,4,6... So if I were to go Oracle 3 levels then kick in Cad at level 4, I would get the bonus feat for level 4, and that's it? I only ask because it's a specific class feature, and it refers to specific levels. Thanks!
Flames of Chaos wrote: RAWmonger wrote: The bonus feats class ability is specific to your fighter class level, not character level. You get bonus feats at FIGHTER LEVEL 1, 2, 4, 6, etc... NOT at character level 1,2,4,6... So if I were to go Oracle 3 levels then kick in Cad at level 4, I would get the bonus feat for level 4, and that's it? I only ask because it's a specific class feature, and it refers to specific levels. Thanks! No. You would be an Oracle 3/Cad 1 and you would get the features for the 1st level of Cad-- not the 4th.
Any new class you multi into starts as level 1 no matter what.
There is a difference between character level and class level. Class levels are how many levels you have in a particular class. So if you have 3 levels of oracle and 1 level of fighter you have 3 class levels of oracle and 1 of fighter. Any class features including bonus feats are based on the number of class levels you have in a particular class. Character level refers to the sum of all your levels from all classics. Most things are based on class level. About the only things that are based on character level XP totals to determine when you level up, standard (not bonus) feats and attribute bonuses.
Some abilities like BAB and saves are cumulative so you add them all together to get the final total. For example a 3rd level oracle has a BAB of +2, a fighter has a BAB of +1. So your oracle 3/fighter 1 has a BAB of +3. All your oracle abilities including spells and caster level would be those of a 3rd level oracle. You would have 2 standard feats and a +1 bonus to 1 attribute. Other than BAB, saves and having proficiency with heavy armor and martial weapons all 1 level of fighter gives you is 1 bonus feat. You do not gain Bravery or any other fighter class ability until your level of fighter is high enough.
It also does not matter what level you multiclass at. You could be a 12th level oracle and when you hit 13th level deicide to pick up a level of fighter. You get all the abilities including bonus feats of a 1st level fighter and nothing else.
Mysterious Stranger wrote: There is a difference between character level and class level. Class levels are how many levels you have in a particular class. So if you have 3 levels of oracle and 1 level of fighter you have 3 class levels of oracle and 1 of fighter. Any class features including bonus feats are based on the number of class levels you have in a particular class. Character level refers to the sum of all your levels from all classics. Most things are based on class level. About the only things that are based on character level XP totals to determine when you level up, standard (not bonus) feats and attribute bonuses.
Some abilities like BAB and saves are cumulative so you add them all together to get the final total. For example a 3rd level oracle has a BAB of +2, a fighter has a BAB of +1. So your oracle 3/fighter 1 has a BAB of +3. All your oracle abilities including spells and caster level would be those of a 3rd level oracle. You would have 2 standard feats and a +1 bonus to 1 attribute. Other than BAB, saves and having proficiency with heavy armor and martial weapons all 1 level of fighter gives you is 1 bonus feat. You do not gain Bravery or any other fighter class ability until your level of fighter is high enough.
It also does not matter what level you multiclass at. You could be a 12th level oracle and when you hit 13th level deicide to pick up a level of fighter. You get all the abilities including bonus feats of a 1st level fighter and nothing else.
I was using those levels as an example to illustrate my point. Thanks for the clarifications, though.
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Thanks all for setting me straight; I sometimes get a little hung up on weird differences like class level versus character level when it's a feature rather than a feat or something.
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