I was hoping to find something in the new book but after I read through it I drew a complete blank.......:(
Was hoping for some spells to add some way for my Mantis girl, but looks like unless I multi into a Cleric I saw no way to add anything new from the book.
Did I miss anything?
All comments and suggestions welcome gang
Thanks :)
Tom
I was hoping to find something in the new book but after I read through it I drew a complete blank.......:(
Was hoping for some spells to add some way for my Mantis girl, but looks like unless I multi into a Cleric I saw no way to add anything new from the book.
Did I miss anything?
All comments and suggestions welcome gang
Thanks :)
Tom
Biggest thing in general, imo, is the fact that Clerics and (eventually) champions can just take Achaekek as a god to get access to Sawtooth Sabers, and therefore get the archetype at a drastically lower level and without having to give up General Feats.
But yeah, that doesn't concern you as far as I can tell.
I was hoping to find something in the new book but after I read through it I drew a complete blank.......:(
Was hoping for some spells to add some way for my Mantis girl, but looks like unless I multi into a Cleric I saw no way to add anything new from the book.
Did I miss anything?
All comments and suggestions welcome gang
Thanks :)
Tom
Biggest thing in general, imo, is the fact that Clerics and (eventually) champions can just take Achaekek as a god to get access to Sawtooth Sabers, and therefore get the archetype at a drastically lower level and without having to give up General Feats.
But yeah, that doesn't concern you as far as I can tell.
Do paladins get training in their favored weapon if it's advanced?
I know clerics get but i think paladins only get martial,unnarmed and simple.
I was hoping to find something in the new book but after I read through it I drew a complete blank.......:(
Was hoping for some spells to add some way for my Mantis girl, but looks like unless I multi into a Cleric I saw no way to add anything new from the book.
Did I miss anything?
All comments and suggestions welcome gang
Thanks :)
Tom
Biggest thing in general, imo, is the fact that Clerics and (eventually) champions can just take Achaekek as a god to get access to Sawtooth Sabers, and therefore get the archetype at a drastically lower level and without having to give up General Feats.
But yeah, that doesn't concern you as far as I can tell.
Do paladins get training in their favored weapon if it's advanced?
I know clerics get but i think paladins only get martial,unnarmed and simple.
Reading the Champion class entry, they only get "access" to it (i.e. they could buy or find it easily enough compared to anyone else), no training or anything. Which is stupid.
"I'm a champion of my deity who wields this weirdly advanced weapon, but I wield it worse than Father Bloodlicker of the same church, so I'm not in the greatest of graces with said deity compared to Father Childeater."
Hypothetical LE champion of Achaekek can fix it with general feat + RMA dedication, but it's kind of funny to think that a champion with a deity who has an advanced weapon might never be able to get full proficiency with it.
It's kind of stupid... I hope there's an optional rule on the APG...
It's kind of stupid... I hope there's an optional rule on the APG...
In the playtest it was a staple for a Champion (AKA Paladin at the time) to not only be trained in their current proficiencies, but also to be trained in the favored weapon of their deity, plus getting access to it.
Not the case here anymore. Either it got lost in editorials or it was removed due to some "Stupid OP unseen circumstances" that make no sense.
**EDIT** Would be nice if we could get it errata'd instead of it being some "optional rule" that requires GM permission, plenty of that in the game as it is via rarity, don't need more barriers.
I don't really see how you could be an emissary of a deity and not have any clue as to how their weapon's intended manner of wielding is.
Thanks for the posts gang
I have 2 Sawtooth Sabers and with a GM OK I went through the usual hoops
Mantis Scion Background
Grew up in the Island nation of Medogalti Island (Shark Island)
Human Versatile Heritage
Human Unconventional Weaponry
Stats
STR / 12
DEX / 19
CON / 16
INT / 14
WIZ / 14
CHA / 10
Backstory
Kendra Falconbridge was born and grew up in the Island nation of Medogalti Island, where Sharkfin Island is near the Nations Capitol was her birthplace. Her family consisted of Father (one Castigar Falconbridge), Mother (one Lorrelle Falconbridge), a twin Brother named one Kendric Falconbridge and a younger sister named Servanna Falconbridge.
The Piracy and Red Mantis Assassin region was quite the place to be brought up in, as her father was a Trainer for the Red and mother was a Cleric of the insect Mantis God Achaekek so Kendra had this drummed into her ever since
Her twin Brother Kendric was a shining star as the assumed to be Fathers replacement trainer once he retired, while little Servanna was coming along quite well as a mantis cleric to be in training, myself I did a bit of everything but did not really latch onto anything but family and its seemingly strange but oh so normal ways for this area.
One day as she partisipated in a Mantis Pirate ship raid for her training she captured an old dwarf Cleric of the Sun Goddess Sarenrae (one Justin Drewland) and instead of putting him to the sword she found his views, and opinions quite refreshing, maybe there are other ways to live in this world, IF she got out of the Islands..........
But she ended up selling him into slavery, felt bad about it then broke him back out and set him free in a small boat in a daring undercover operation with the help of brother and sister dear and all seemed well with her world.
A week after this caper Kendra came back home from another dull training day and to her utter horror she found both parents brutally slaughtered, and twin brother and younger sister gone........
Kendra 24, Brother Kendric 32, sister Servanna just turned 18
Basic but functional and adds a few hooks for the GM as to why I was in the area. Going for a cleric archtype as well if I want to follow my mother.
But man the spells are so limited as to the Red Mantis archtype one can have and saw none from Gods and Magic
transmutation or illusion spells ONLY from the arcane spell list or some specific list
Cantrips are only
Sigil (Trans)
Ghost Sound (Ill)
Message (Ill)
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Ant Haul (Trans)
Color Spray (Ill)
Exchange Image (Ill)
Fleet Step )Trans)
Illusory Disguise (Ill)
Illusory Object (Ill)
Item Facade (Ill)
Jump (Trans)
Longstrider (Trans)
Magic Aura ((Ill)
Magic Weapon (Trans)
Mending (Trans)
Pest Form (Trans)
Ventriloquism (Ill)
Some quite usefull and as I have very limited spell slots
Thoughts?
Tom