Ricochet Toss + Improvised Weapon

[Darche Schneider]

So Ricochet toss says it could work with an improvised weapon if you have throw anything. But how does ricochet toss work with improvised weapons when they're not aweapon group?

[EldonGuyre]

I'm not sure I'm understanding the question. The text on Ricochet Toss I just read says nothing about weapon groups. I'm not seeing how that matters.

It says it works. Throw Anything gives you no penalty. If you use both together, improvised weapons return to hand after being thrown.

Cute.

I have to wonder what level of skill it takes to throw a mug of ale without spilling it.

[willuwontu]

EldonGuyre wrote:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the question. The text on Ricochet Toss I just read says nothing about weapon groups. I'm not seeing how that matters.

It says it works. Throw Anything gives you no penalty. If you use both together, improvised weapons return to hand after being thrown.

Cute.

I have to wonder what level of skill it takes to throw a mug of ale without spilling it.

Ricochet toss is a weapon mastery feat.

Weapon Mastery Feats wrote:

Although most combat techniques are general enough to be categorized as combat feats, some require such a high level of martial skill that they are instead categorized as weapon mastery feats. Weapon mastery feats count as combat feats for all purposes, including which classes can select them as bonus feats, and you gain the benefits of a weapon mastery feat only while wielding a weapon that belongs to a fighter weapon group that you have selected with the fighter weapon training class feature (referred to hereafter as an “appropriate weapon”), and any effect of these feats related to attacks applies only to attacks from such weapons unless the feat specifies otherwise. Characters who lack the weapon training class feature can access weapon mastery feats by taking the Martial Focus feat below.

So to answer the OP, it doesn't work with them unless you have 2 levels of hinyasi brawler, and weapon training (close).

[EldonGuyre]

willuwontu wrote:

EldonGuyre wrote:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the question. The text on Ricochet Toss I just read says nothing about weapon groups. I'm not seeing how that matters.

It says it works. Throw Anything gives you no penalty. If you use both together, improvised weapons return to hand after being thrown.

Cute.

I have to wonder what level of skill it takes to throw a mug of ale without spilling it.

Ricochet toss is a weapon mastery feat.

Weapon Mastery Feats wrote:

Although most combat techniques are general enough to be categorized as combat feats, some require such a high level of martial skill that they are instead categorized as weapon mastery feats. Weapon mastery feats count as combat feats for all purposes, including which classes can select them as bonus feats, and you gain the benefits of a weapon mastery feat only while wielding a weapon that belongs to a fighter weapon group that you have selected with the fighter weapon training class feature (referred to hereafter as an “appropriate weapon”), and any effect of these feats related to attacks applies only to attacks from such weapons unless the feat specifies otherwise. Characters who lack the weapon training class feature can access weapon mastery feats by taking the Martial Focus feat below.

So to answer the OP, it doesn't work with them unless you have 2 levels of hinyasi brawler, and weapon training (close).

I was wondering if there was something I was missing.

[blahpers]

I suspect that the intent was for it to work with improvised weapons (via Throw Anything) so long as you're using them in the manner of a weapon with which you have mastery--think Xena doing the chakram trick with a fish in that one episode--but who knows.