Having trouble understanding "Devotion Spells" from Champion class


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Hi guys, my group finally bought Pathfinder 2e, and, as I will GM it, I'm reading the book and building a character to better understand the rules.
I'm making a Champion, a Half-Elf Champion (Paladin) of Iomedae.
One of the class features is "Devotion Spells", and reading it I understood that now I have one focus point, sweet! But, what spells do I have? Should I choose one from her domains? I start with all of them? None, in which case, I need to take the "Deity's Domain" feat?
I'm a little lost, so please help me! And sorry for the really newbie question!


juca wrote:

Hi guys, my group finally bought Pathfinder 2e, and, as I will GM it, I'm reading the book and building a character to better understand the rules.

I'm making a Champion, a Half-Elf Champion (Paladin) of Iomedae.
One of the class features is "Devotion Spells", and reading it I understood that now I have one focus point, sweet! But, what spells do I have? Should I choose one from her domains? I start with all of them? None, in which case, I need to take the "Deity's Domain" feat?
I'm a little lost, so please help me! And sorry for the really newbie question!

You start with Lay on Hands as your Focus spell.

you can pick more focus spells from picking a Domain, or from picking the Litany feats later on.


Nice, I should read more carefull next time... But, does the "Deity's Domain" feat increases the number of focus points?
Thanks again!


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Unless I'm missing something, no, it doesn't provide extra focus points. It adds it as a devotion spell, so you can choose between that and lay hands.


The other question with the "Deity's Domain" feat becomes whether variables that normally use Wisdom for a cleric instead use Charisma for a Champion or not.

Silver Crusade

Devotion Spells wrote:
Your deity’s power grants you special divine spells called devotion spells, which are a type of focus spell. It costs 1 Focus Point to cast a focus spell, and you start with a focus pool of 1 Focus Point. You refill your focus pool during your daily preparations, and you regain 1 Focus Point by spending 10 minutes using the Refocus activity to pray to your deity or do service toward their causes. Focus spells are automatically heightened to half your level rounded up. Certain feats can give you more focus spells and increase the size of your focus pool, though your focus pool can never hold more than 3 Focus Points. The full rules are on page 300. You gain a devotion spell depending on your cause, and you are trained in divine spell attack rolls and spell DCs. Your spellcasting ability is Charisma.

I don't believe any of those abilities/spells reference a specific stat.


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I was, at the time of writing, thinking about the Death domain spell (Death's Call) when asking.

Quote:
You gain temporary Hit Points equal to the triggering creature's level plus your Wisdom modifier. If the triggering creature was undead, double the number of temporary Hit Points you gain.

Silver Crusade

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Ah, good catch. Added to the typo/mistakes/etc thread.

Verdant Wheel

HOW MUCH HEALING THE LAY ON HAND ABILLITY CAN DO? ...

jUST 6 hp?

Heightened (+1) this MEANS THAT IF I use 3 FOCUS POINTS, IT WILL HEAL 18 HP?

tHAT IS IT?

Please someone can clarify this to me?

Seens a little to low for high levels

Sorry for my bad english.


A Focus spell is cast at a level equal to half your level (rounded up). When cast at 1st level, lay on hands heals 6 hp. The entry

Quote:
Heightened(+1) The amount of healing increases by 6

means that when the spell is higher level (as in heightened) than the minimum, the healing increases by 6 per level of increase.

So when you are 3rd level, you cast focus spells at 2nd level, so it heals the base 6 + (2nd level - 1st level = 1) * 6 more = 12 hp.

When you are 9th level, you cast at 5th, so it heals 30 hp.

(That may seem like a weird way for the rules to put it. It is for this, but for non-Focus spells it's actually useful to give heightened effects like that, and the writers wanted to use a unified system for all spells/powers.)

In no case do you need to spend more than one Focus point to cast it. In fact, you can't even if you'd wanted to.

EDIT: The glorious, gory details of Heightening spells are on page 299.

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