Is there a typo in the Aid reaction decription?

[Zootcat]

The description for the Aid reaction (page 470) states that the DC is 20. Is this a typo? Should it be 10?

[Eltacolibre]

Zootcat wrote:

The description for the Aid reaction (page 470) states that the DC is 20. Is this a typo? Should it be 10?

Not a typo.

The line before says the DC is set by the GM. The game is really centered on what the GM decides.

DC 20 is typical but can be modified by how hard a task is and how easy it is.

But yeah a GM can say an Aid action is DC 15, while another can say that it is DC 30 it would be perfectly within the rules.

[Zootcat]

Eltacolibre wrote:

The line before says the DC is set by the GM. The game is really centered on what the GM decides.

DC 20 is typical but can be modified by how hard a task is and how easy it is.

But yeah a GM can say an Aid action is DC 15, while another can say that it is DC 30 it would be perfectly within the rules.

Yeah, I got all that. Editions before this one had it at 10. Why change it to 20?

[lordcirth]

Zootcat wrote:

Eltacolibre wrote:

The line before says the DC is set by the GM. The game is really centered on what the GM decides.

DC 20 is typical but can be modified by how hard a task is and how easy it is.

But yeah a GM can say an Aid action is DC 15, while another can say that it is DC 30 it would be perfectly within the rules.

Yeah, I got all that. Editions before this one had it at 10. Why change it to 20?

Well, Aid is potentially more powerful (+2 or +4 iirc) and your average trained PC could have a fairly high bonus to that roll, as they are adding level.

[Zwordsman]

Because you can help other characters Crit fish with it now I think.

Adding +1 or scaling up to +4 to hit. Which helps them hit the thresholds.

[Xenocrat]

Zootcat wrote:

Eltacolibre wrote:

The line before says the DC is set by the GM. The game is really centered on what the GM decides.

DC 20 is typical but can be modified by how hard a task is and how easy it is.

But yeah a GM can say an Aid action is DC 15, while another can say that it is DC 30 it would be perfectly within the rules.

Yeah, I got all that. Editions before this one had it at 10. Why change it to 20?

A 2nd level Rogue with Expert in a skill can have 2+4+4=10 as his bonus, 55% chance of success. At 3rd level anyone with Expert and an 18 attribute in the relevant skill has an 11 bonus, 60% success. It just gets easier from there, they want it to avoid auto succeed and have a chance of failure until you've gained several levels and invested some proficiency.

4th level Bards can also have Inspire Competence which grants a success even on a failure, lets you apply your max skill/attribute to any skill at all, plus with Virtuostic Performer skill feat they get an extra +1 to try for a crit success. Pretty good when helping a combat manuever.

[Akvo]

For what it's worth, Aid is DC15 in the playtest, which sounds "more right" to me, but I'd also like official confirmation on this.