Minor entities you wish to see in 2e.

[MindFl*yer98]

During its many years of publishing, Paizo flled golarion with many interesting entities, both good and bad, but sadly only a few of them menaged to get under the spotlight in an adventure, a campaign or a companion book. So i ask you, what entities do you wish to see utilized and expanded in the future , both as antagonists and as allies of the PCs? What favourites of yours would you like to get more love in this edition? Those below are mine, i want to know yours.

Daemonic Harbringers in general:
This is probably the most underrated group of antagonists. They are all make for terrifying villains, and i wish to see their role expanded in more mature campaigns. Specifically, i want to see more of Diceid, Cyxiron, Corosbel, Laivatiniel and Osolmyr.

Diceid He introduces he threath of ecological collapse, one that is seldom seen in most fantasy works. Most fantasy worlds are always about to end for a myriad reasons, we know it, but villains that target the ecosystem itself are usually relagated to morality tales for children to show the benefits of enviromentalism. Diceid and his cultists have the potential to be the perfect villains for a much more mature take on this theme, perhaps for some nature-themed module or adventure path. Also, he has one of the most baddass titles in the game, so it just has to be utilized.

Cyxiron everyone favourite way to give firearm proficiency to their cleric would also allow the writers to explore the darker sides of progress. Golarion has always been more technologically advanced then most others high fantasy settings, and Cyxiron itself is proof of that. He would also be an excellent antagonist for anything set in the Mana Wastes, to reflect the darker sides of the hardened survivalists that inhabit those lands, people who are willing to do anyting to give just a bit more power to their trusted guns.

Laivatiniel This harbringer introduces some pretty mature themes to the game, but it is also on of the most suited for a psycoogical horror module,something that would leave the players chilled to the core. Laivatiniel is a creature of paradoxes, an embodiment of hate that has love and coddling, however twisted, as part of her domain. For that alone i believe she deserves a better exploration.

Corosbel
Corosbel is the ultimate bait and switch villain. Few tings are more powerful in the narrative than an heroic sacrifice done right, and few things are more devastating than learning that the heroic sacrifice actually helped your enemy. Also, he comes with a rivalry to Hanspur that could give some great plot hoooks in a morally grey adventure or module, and he is the perfect foil to the next entry on my list...

Lythertida I mean, her cults sounds like one that produces loads of martyrs. She would be perfect to insert in a campaign that relies heavily on the themes of idealism and practicality. She is a lord that sparks revolutions, but can her cult sustain them?

Black Butterfly Everyone favourite Empyreal Lord, she has been explored way more that the other entities on my list, but she and her cultists still have to make an official appearence. They would be perfect allies in an adventure focused on the threats that lurks between the stars.

All the Asura Ranas
They among the most philosophical villains in the setting, who are set apart form all the others by the fact that they really do have a point about the imperfection of the gods. They could make excellent villains in all sorts of adventure paths, and, given their lawful nature, their cults could even be used as somewhat trustworthy allies against cults of evil gods.

[Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti]

Will the Emperyal Lords be present?

[Cole Deschain]

Pretty sure none of them are going away (er... who hadn't ALREADY been explicitly binned, like Folca).

[MidsouthGuy]

I am also really hoping to see at least some of the Asura Ranas, Kyton Demagogues, and Oni Daimyos in the new edition. Also, DAEMONS NEED MORE LOVE!

[deuxhero]

Asmodeus' Demon Hunters.

[Archpaladin Zousha]

Cole Deschain wrote:

Pretty sure none of them are going away (er... who hadn't ALREADY been explicitly binned, like Folca).

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that Folca got the axe: a combination of the Slender Man and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang's Child Catcher just seemed like a pizza cutter to me. All edge and no point.

[keftiu]

Would love to see the Scarlet Rose again. They’re an awesome group /and/ canonically led by a trans lesbian? Yes please.

[John Compton]

MindFl*yer98 wrote:

Daemonic Harbringers in general:

This is probably the most underrated group of antagonists. They are all make for terrifying villains, and i wish to see their role expanded in more mature campaigns. Specifically, i want to see more of Diceid, Cyxiron, Corosbel, Laivatiniel and Osolmyr.

Although he’s not among the ones on your list, be sure to check out the new Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Druma, Profit and Prophecy that released this month for far more information about the harbinger Brasmois.

[Golarion In-Depth]

I know this is history, but I was looking for more information on Churcanus and how Lamashtu tricked him. I'm running a campaign right now that involves a Lamashtu cult and one of my players worships Desna.

[The Gold Sovereign]

- The evil and the good elemental lords, since now all of them are mentioned to be free in the 2E Bestiary 1.

- All the empyreal lords, presented in a way just like the main fiendish deities were presented in Book of the Damned.

- Other draconic deities, like Shizuru, her brother and Nymbio, and their relationship to Apsu and Dahak.

[Deadmanwalking]

Cole Deschain wrote:

Pretty sure none of them are going away (er... who hadn't ALREADY been explicitly binned, like Folca).

Technically, I don't think Folca ceased to exist. His entry from BotD was retconned out of existence and they seem unlikely to bring him up again, but I don't think his existence was retconned, just the particular interpretation gone with in BotD.

Not that this distinction matters much, but I'm just pedantic enough to bring it up.

[Isabelle Thorne]

keftiu wrote:

Would love to see the Scarlet Rose again. They’re an awesome group /and/ canonically led by a trans lesbian? Yes please.

I dearly hope I get the opportunity! Though I don't know how soon we'll be going back to their corner of Golarion. Still, hopefully when that day comes, I'll be there. ^_^

[Tender Tendrils]

I would really love to see more of Areshkagal - she is one of the seven demon lords associated with deadly sins, but unlike baphomet and dagon and pazuzu and assorted other demon lords, she has yet to grace us with a statblock or a bestiary entry, despite having a really cool and interesting design (not to mention, she can engage the party with devious riddles before she drives them insane by showing them her face).

Aside from her, how about the goblin hero gods? They seem like something that could get a bit more of a spotlight now that goblins are taking a much bigger role in the setting - they act as a representation of the evil that some goblins are trying to escape, and can act as antagonists in a similar role to demon lords, but a fair bit less powerful.

[Pope Uncommon the Dainty]

The Forsaken, and thus the owbs and their prophets who channel them. In addition to being the caligni's old savior gods, just look at their respective portfolios!

• fetters, lethargy, and physical corruption
• inferiority, felines, and strangers
• accidents, parasites, and reckless lust (sacred aninmal is the tick)
• emptiness, loneliness, and narcissism
• family strife, suspicion, and vengeance
• broken things, forgetting, and unexpected violence
• failed heroics, imprisonment and squandered time

Sure, some of them are edgelord-y, but the others are such unusual things to see in a god's portfolio....

The Widow, who saved the kayal after Earthfall. Which is, I think, literally the only thing we know about her....

Pakalchi sahkils ~ I'd love to see one with class levels (is such a thing still possible in PF2?) as the ultimate villain of an AP

Court poet skalds, magical child vigilantes, and gingerbread witches

Occult dragons of all types

Pixies

Household spirits

The Cult of the Failed

Nidalese dwarfs

Ninshabur

I'm sure there are more.....

I'm sure there are more....

[CorvusMask]

Deadmanwalking wrote:

Cole Deschain wrote:

Pretty sure none of them are going away (er... who hadn't ALREADY been explicitly binned, like Folca).

Technically, I don't think Folca ceased to exist. His entry from BotD was retconned out of existence and they seem unlikely to bring him up again, but I don't think his existence was retconned, just the particular interpretation gone with in BotD.

Not that this distinction matters much, but I'm just pedantic enough to bring it up.

I like to go with "Some good aligned high level party destroyed Folca" because its both win for good guys and gets rid of Folca xD

[Paradozen]

Proteans. They have been warring with the abyss and axis for longer than most gods have been active, it'd be cool to know more about that. Also, the protean lords are described as prophets of the proteans rather than leaders or demideities, how was that affected by prophecy breaking?

[Cole Deschain]

CorvusMask wrote:

Deadmanwalking wrote:

Cole Deschain wrote:

Pretty sure none of them are going away (er... who hadn't ALREADY been explicitly binned, like Folca).

Technically, I don't think Folca ceased to exist. His entry from BotD was retconned out of existence and they seem unlikely to bring him up again, but I don't think his existence was retconned, just the particular interpretation gone with in BotD.

Not that this distinction matters much, but I'm just pedantic enough to bring it up.

I like to go with "Some good aligned high level party destroyed Folca" because its both win for good guys and gets rid of Folca xD

Heck, that's what we did!

[avatarless]

Gods slumming as competing NPC adventurers in an adventure path.

Sun Wukong -- Drunken Master Monk
Brigh -- Engineer (of course this means we need an Engineer class)
Black Butterfly -- Witch w/Butterfly Familiar
Sivanah -- Illusionist

[keftiu]

Coming back to my Scarlet Rose hopes; a less ableist depiction of Filarina’s partner would be a dream.