Smashing style type of action

[Jamvencarter94]

https://aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Smashing%20Style feat for reference So looking at a feat and was wondering about the type of action on a successful sunder check vs armor. If I wanted to do the additional action would it be an immediate action or free?

[Cavall]

Looks free. Just use the bonuses youd get for bull rush to make the roll.

[Xelaaredn]

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Smashing Style

Second, it is an immediate action, meaning it takes your immediate action for the round. You use the CMB modifiers that you used for the sunder attempt, not the modifiers that you would use for a bull rush normally. Says it in the feat description. Literally. On both counts.

[Fuzzy-Wuzzy]

"You can immediately do something" =/= "you can do something as an immediate action."

The bull rush or trip is a free action.

[Xelaaredn]

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:

"You can immediately do something" =/= "you can do something as an immediate action."

The bull rush or trip is a free action.

Agree to disagree. It is not called out as being a free action.

[Syries]

It doesn’t call out any action type, meaning it is tacked on to the triggering action, which in this case is whenever you succeed at a sunder maneuver. It could even be done off turn and as many times as possible in a round (assuming the trigger occurs multiple times in a round) thus making it even better than a free action or immediate action.

[Xelaaredn]

Or, you know, actually look for a similar feat when pressed instead of just assuming you are right.

I'll have to concede, it most likely is a free action and they just got stingy with the word count.

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[Wheldrake]

Syries wrote:

It doesn’t call out any action type, meaning it is tacked on to the triggering action, which in this case is whenever you succeed at a sunder maneuver. It could even be done off turn and as many times as possible in a round (assuming the trigger occurs multiple times in a round) thus making it even better than a free action or immediate action.

I agree completely, it reads as if it is simply an additional effect from the action used for the sunder maneuver. No additional action necessary.