Hi, if I am a big creature (A), and my friend is (B), who would I flank at this cases?
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1)
_B
CDE
AA
AA
2)
___B
CDE
AA
AA
3)
__B
_CDE
AA
AA
Thank you.
Thank you!!
I understand that in case 2) there are three spaces to the west of B, so that B iss located north-east of E? And in Case 3) there are two spaces, so B is located directly north of D?
Then believe it's:
1) D
2) E
3) CD
In 3), if you link the center of B with the center of south-eastern square of A, it passes through the northern side and the south-western corner of D, and a corner counts as a part of the side, so it's a flanking position.
Generally speaking, if you think of the larger creature as several medium creatures, and if any can flank you can. So if we look at the top 2 squares, and call them A1 and A2, if either A1 or A2 could flank as a medium creature, then the large creature A is good to go.
Generally speaking, if you think of the larger creature as several medium creatures, and if any can flank you can. So if we look at the top 2 squares, and call them A1 and A2, if either A1 or A2 could flank as a medium creature, then the large creature A is good to go.
More or less, except for threatening. A larger creature threatens as a whole, so a square that is further away from the enemy may still count for flanking, even if as a separate creature it wouldn't have enough reach to threaten it.
Replacing "_" with "." to clarify things:
Hi, if I am a big creature (A), and my friend is (B), who would I flank at this cases?
.1)
.B
CDE
AA
AA2)
...B
CDE
AA
AA3)
..B
.CDE
AA
AA
When in doubt about whether two characters flank an opponent in the middle, trace an imaginary line between the two attackers’ centers. If the line passes through opposite borders of the opponent’s space (including corners of those borders), then the opponent is flanked.
Exception: If a flanker takes up more than 1 square, it gets the flanking bonus if any square it occupies counts for flanking.
So...
1) A gets the bonus for D only2) A gets the bonus for E only
3) A gets the bonus for C only
/cevah
I agree, but the "." doesn't look right in the final display font for me either. I'll try representing empty space as "O":
(And add some lines...
...so my portrait icon doesn't get in the way)
1)
OBO
CDE
AAO
AAO
(D is flanked between A & B)
2)
OOOB
CDEO
AAOO
AAOO
(E is flanked between A & B)
3)
OOBO
OCDE
AAOO
AAOO
(C is flanked between A & B)
I still argue that in case 3) D is also flanked. That is because if you draw a line linking the center of B with the center of lower-right square of A it passes through two oposite sides of D (a corner still counts).
I agree. The line from the center of B to the center of the lower right square of A passes through first one side of D and then the lower-left corner of the opposing side of D, which is explicitly called out as sufficient for flanking. D is flanked.
Argh. I hate overlooking that.
/cevah
Well, from the center of B to the lower left corner of D is left 1/2 square and down 1 1/2 squares. From the corner left 1/2 square and down 1 1/2 squares is the center of the lower right square of A. Since both haves of this line has the same slope, and share the corner, it is a strait line. Since a corner counts as both sides it touches, this line from A to B runs through opposite sides of D. A therefore flanks D.
The interesting thing, however, is that a strict reading means that while A gets flanking, B does not. It must check against the center of A, not the center of a square A covers.
/cevah
Well, from the center of B to the lower left corner of D is left 1/2 square and down 1 1/2 squares. From the corner left 1/2 square and down 1 1/2 squares is the center of the lower right square of A. Since both haves of this line has the same slope, and share the corner, it is a strait line. Since a corner counts as both sides it touches, this line from A to B runs through opposite sides of D. A therefore flanks D.I stand corrected. The math works out. I draw that line four times, and always missed the corner.
Perhaps you were using non-euclidean geometry?
/cevah