|
Dear fellow players and dev team,
I and my friends are currently playing Rise of the Runelords set, and I just discovered the new core set from the other site. I really wanted to use official store but the shipping cost was no joke!
Anyway, thanks for renewing the game and community. But I have a question: what happens to the old sets?
I am quite positive that this might be a duplicate question, but I couldn't find the thread I am looking for.. So I decided to go make another one. Sorry about that. I was just wondering if I and my friends' set should be set aside, or there are some ways to make use of them.
Thanks in advance. I can't wait to play new core set with my friends!
The design team has told us that they strove to make all the old stuff compatible with the new stuff (at least, as much as possible). You can hear this from the horse's mouth (the lead designer, Mike Selinker): Mike on why this is not PACG 2.0.
This is something I plan to examine closely once I (finally) get my hands on the new sets.
Hi there!
The Core Set provides a large number of changes to the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game. It provides new card layouts, new templating improvements, new gameplay improvements, rule improvements and new designs, refined over many years of development of the card game. All future sets (including the now-released Curse of the Crimson Throne) will require the Core Set in order to be played - but they'll now be sold in single boxes rather than in a series of adventures and add-on decks, like Rise of the Runelords was.
The Core Set can be used along with any older set, if you choose. You can absolutely play through Rise of the Runelords with the added boons, banes and characters of the Core Set, or you can keep them seperate. If you want, you could also play through the Core Set adventure path and add Rise of the Runelords boons and banes, too. There may be some teething problems from the slightly different rulesets, but there is a transition guide included with the Core Set's rulebook that covers the most important issues you might come across.
Short answer; Core may be a big step forward for the game, but it is still (technically) compatible with older sets if that's of interest to you. I highly recommend giving it a go!
(And if you live outside of the US, yes, Paizo shipping costs are very high for anything aside from very small goods. You'd be better asking around local stores to see if they plan to stock it, or even purchasing from a third party online retailer.)
Anyway, thanks for renewing the game and community. But I have a question: what happens to the old sets?
Another great option, which requires NO overseas shipping:
Buy the Seasons for the "old" box sets here
Each "Season" costs about $30 and allows you to use the entire box set again with about 30 scenarios. 1$ per scenario and you get to reuse the box set! A total steal, in my opinion.
Each box set has at least 1 "Season" and some have two.
Save the Earth, buy a Season!
(and then buy the new core set later when you are done with the "season"...).. :)
|
|
Anyway, thanks for renewing the game and community. But I have a question: what happens to the old sets?
Another great option, which requires NO overseas shipping:
Buy the Seasons for the "old" box sets here
Each "Season" costs about $30 and allows you to use the entire box set again with about 30 scenarios. 1$ per scenario and you get to reuse the box set! A total steal, in my opinion.
Each box set has at least 1 "Season" and some have two.
Save the Earth, buy a Season!
(and then buy the new core set later when you are done with the "season"...).. :)
Well.. I clicked the link you've provided, and something went wrong, I assume. I was able to see all the seasons and stuff, but now it seems like it keeps loading but won't finish it. What could I do?!
Try this link instead! (it goes directly to the store page instead of the PACS page, which seems to be having issues right now :)
|
|
Well yesterday there was the first play with my friends and I've got a little confused..
I thought that to play Season of RotR, all I needed was just Base Set. So I played only with Base Set and Burnt Offerings expansion. But I think to play Season, it has to be Organized Play, which requires a Class Deck for each players!
Is that right?
I believe that I and my friends purchased all the expansions for RotR, and a Character Deck. With these "infrastructure", is that still possible to play Season games? Or do I have to stick with legacy rules, and home game only?
Somehow it feels like I need to play OP for now.. not sure if that is really necessary though.
Please help me out!!
Well yesterday there was the first play with my friends and I've got a little confused..
I thought that to play Season of RotR, all I needed was just Base Set. So I played only with Base Set and Burnt Offerings expansion. But I think to play Season, it has to be Organized Play, which requires a Class Deck for each players!
Is that right?
I believe that I and my friends purchased all the expansions for RotR, and a Character Deck. With these "infrastructure", is that still possible to play Season games? Or do I have to stick with legacy rules, and home game only?
Somehow it feels like I need to play OP for now.. not sure if that is really necessary though.
Please help me out!!
As mentioned above, you don't need to play in Organized Play to play the Season games. The Season PDFs are extra adventure paths using the same cards that are designed for Organized Play, where your results are reported up to Paizo for structured rewards, but you can simply just buy them and use them however you want in your home game - feel free to just run them like any other adventure path, without any rules changes.
The only thing you'll need to do is give yourself power/card/skill feats (one of each per adventure, plus an extra power feat and a role card when you finish adventure 3) as rewards every now and then.
Also, the homebrew section of these boards has some custom designed Adventure paths based on older box sets.
Well yesterday there was the first play with my friends and I've got a little confused..
I thought that to play Season of RotR, all I needed was just Base Set. So I played only with Base Set and Burnt Offerings expansion. But I think to play Season, it has to be Organized Play, which requires a Class Deck for each players!
Is that right?
I believe that I and my friends purchased all the expansions for RotR, and a Character Deck. With these "infrastructure", is that still possible to play Season games? Or do I have to stick with legacy rules, and home game only?
Somehow it feels like I need to play OP for now.. not sure if that is really necessary though.
Please help me out!!
As mentioned above, you don't need to play in Organized Play to play the Season games. The Season PDFs are extra adventure paths using the same cards that are designed for Organized Play, where your results are reported up to Paizo for structured rewards, but you can simply just buy them and use them however you want in your home game - feel free to just run them like any other adventure path, without any rules changes.
The only thing you'll need to do is give yourself power/card/skill feats (one of each per adventure, plus an extra power feat and a role card when you finish adventure 3) as rewards every now and then.
I plan to use RotR base set and purchased the entire Season of the Runelords. Looking at the reward for Adventure 3: Into the Mountain. "Each player unlocks the ability to play Shardra from the WotR Character Add-On Deck using the Oracle Class Deck."
What is an appropriate substitution for this if you do not have that Class Deck?
I plan to use RotR base set and purchased the entire Season of the Runelords. Looking at the reward for Adventure 3: Into the Mountain. "Each player unlocks the ability to play Shardra from the WotR Character Add-On Deck using the Oracle Class Deck."
What is an appropriate substitution for this if you do not have that Class Deck?
Тhis reward is a bonus for and only concerns Organized Play. If you mean a substitute for OP - there isn't one, as it's a very tightly controlled medium, rules-wise.
If you talk about your own HOME games - you don't need a substitute, you are already granted the reward of a Role card and power feat. As I said the Shardra thing is just *bonus* to that for OP only.
I plan to use RotR base set and purchased the entire Season of the Runelords. Looking at the reward for Adventure 3: Into the Mountain. "Each player unlocks the ability to play Shardra from the WotR Character Add-On Deck using the Oracle Class Deck."
What is an appropriate substitution for this if you do not have that Class Deck?
Тhis reward is a bonus for and only concerns Organized Play. If you mean a substitute for OP - there isn't one, as it's a very tightly controlled medium, rules-wise.
If you talk about your own HOME games - you don't need a substitute, you are already granted the reward of a Role card and power feat. As I said the Shardra thing is just *bonus* to that for OP only.
Thank you for the explanation. I was concerned that the scenarios, as written, would be too difficult if I was unable to utilize all rewards.
To simply play the "Seasons" without it being organized, start the scenarios (from the "Seasons" rules):
After completing the first scenario, give the character a skill feat.
After completing the second scenario, give the character a power feat.
After completing the fourth scenario, give the character a card feat.
Repeat for adventures until the end, so each character will end with 5 of each.
Note: the new rules for organized play, as I understand them, may change the above, but it's a good starting point.
Class decks add some nice options and new characters but are not needed to simply play, just mix in all cards you want to use and play.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
To simply play the "Seasons" without it being organized, start the scenarios (from the "Seasons" rules):
After completing the first scenario, give the character a skill feat.
After completing the second scenario, give the character a power feat.
After completing the fourth scenario, give the character a card feat.Repeat for adventures until the end, so each character will end with 5 of each.
Note: the new rules for organized play, as I understand them, may change the above, but it's a good starting point.
Class decks add some nice options and new characters but are not needed to simply play, just mix in all cards you want to use and play.
"Repeat for adventures until the end", so each character should end with 6 of each, not 5.
Additionally, you gain an extra power feat when you earn your role card (same as in base set adventure paths), and it's probably worth getting an extra Card and Skill feat around AD5 or so, as most seasons provide a bonus Skill and Card feat at some point.
"Repeat for adventures until the end", so each character should end with 6 of each, not 5.
Additionally, you gain an extra power feat when you earn your role card (same as in base set adventure paths), and it's probably worth getting an extra Card and Skill feat around AD5 or so, as most seasons provide a bonus Skill and Card feat at some point.
Thanks Yewstance, my math was bad... :)
Could we not just backport hero points to the old seasons? That covers all the character advancement.
The new Organized Play rules do exactly that: each scenario awards a hero point in addition to the listed awards. That said, if you’re playing using the RotR rulebook (which is probably the case for a home game), it’ll be easier to use the old advancement system detailed in previous posts. It aligns better with what you’re used to when playing the included AP.
Some awards are only relevant to organized play, such as character unlocks, RPG boons, and bonus deck upgrades. Ignore any such rewards when playing through a home game (no need to substitute with something else, although you can if you want. I’d suggest nothing more powerful than “Choose a type of card and draw a random non-loot card of that type from the box.” in that case)
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Additionally, you gain an extra power feat when you earn your role card (same as in base set adventure paths), and it's probably worth getting an extra Card and Skill feat around AD5 or so, as most seasons provide a bonus Skill and Card feat at some point.If seasons already provide extra feats around AD5, would I need to manually add those? Wouldn't they already be printed on the season scenario rewards?
So, if I understood you correctly, you will probably have around 7 of each feat by the end of the adventure path, is that correct?Also, I wonder how loot works in season scenarios. Is there any? And if there is, are they new cards designed for these adventure paths or are they the same ones that come in the box? I assume any loot would be printed in the scenario rewards, is that right?
Good point, they're already listed in the Adventure rewards - my mistake! The only thing you have to remember is the bonus power feat and your Role card at the end of AD3 (which isn't listed in the season adventure rewards, since it's tied into the Tier system).
There are Loot cards - for most seasons, most/all Loot comes from the Box, so you'd just earn it as if you had in a normal AP (in OP, it works a little differently, but the transition is easy/obvious to make when they start talking about earning/marking a Loot Card reward). There are sometimes all-new custom cards mentioned or used in OP, which sometimes includes Loot cards - just print your own copy or (more likely) proxy them somehow.