Can a Warlocks Mystic Bolts be used in conjunction with Martial Maneuvers?


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If so could a Wizard or Sorcerers rays be used as attacks in conjunction with Martial Maneuvers?

On the one hand reading how psionics works with certain disciplines like Sleeping Goddess, I figured they must. My thoughts are so long as the attack requires a attack roll then the ycan be used with martial maneuvers.

on the other hand if a spell requires a standard action, and a maneuver says its 1 standard action can be they be used at the same time?

The Warlock's Mystic Bolts are unique in that they function like weapons in that you can fire as many mystic bolts as you can make attacks in a round, they don't exist until you are about to attack and thus im pretty sure you can use them with martial maneuvers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Liberty's Edge

What warlock are you using?

Without reading it my assumption would be that it can only be used with manuevers that don't take away it's same action. So you could boost with a swift then still full attack.

If using Eldritch Blast is a free action when you would make a strike, however then I can see the two working together.


Vigilante archetype Warlock from Paizo. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/vigilante/archetypes/vigilant e-archetypes-paizo-inc/warlock/

This Warlock doesn't have eldritch blast, it gets "Mystic Bolts" a supernatural blast of energy that is chosen between the 4 basic elements of acid, cold, fire and electricity. These mystic bolts however only require the necessary energy required to use a specific attack in the form of melee attack or ranged attack, like fighting with a weapon. Ie throwing a shuriken, or striking someone with a mace, so they aren't standard actions in the strictest since, they are more like weapon attacks. So if a maneuver requires you to make a weapon attack roll my question is could mystic bolts be used in conjunction with said attacks?


menuvers are not weapon attak rolls. some menuvers can be used with weapons. but they are cmb rolls.
effects that work on all your weapons in a round (like arcane strike) work with the mystic bolts as you basicly make and unmake the weapons. so i would let you use menuvers that can be used with weapons (such as trip\disarm. but not bullrush) also you will still target cmd, so the touch attack of level 3+ won't help you.


zza ni wrote:

menuvers are not weapon attak rolls. some menuvers can be used with weapons. but they are cmb rolls.

effects that work on all your weapons in a round (like arcane strike) work with the mystic bolts as you basicly make and unmake the weapons. so i would let you use menuvers that can be used with weapons (such as trip\disarm. but not bullrush) also you will still target cmd, so the touch attack of level 3+ won't help you.

not those types of Martial Maneuvers I mean the ones from the Path of War from Dreamscarred Press, Elemental Flux, Mithril Current and stuff like that.

Liberty's Edge

It seems like if would work so long as they don't require a specific weapon. (Unless you can mimic a specific weapon.)

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