| PossibleCabbage |
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I generally avoid "fantasy racism" in all of its forms because I just don't want to mirror or reproduce real world systems of oppression in my games. I find it's generally enough that these people over here hate those people over there because these people want to take what those people have, and will use whatever as a pretext.
So I don't use slurs (even the canonical one in "slip") and I don't think the experience suffers for not including them.
| Yqatuba |
While I realize that these are being applied to fantasy races, do we want to have extended discussion about how to use racial slurs that could be used against players? "Ape" and "monkey" slurs are already used in real life against people of African descent.
Well, technically against their characters not the players themselves. That said, I could see being uncomfortable using it for that reason. Maybe instead have serpentfolk call humans "softskins" or "greasebags" (referring to how they sweat, which I assume snake people don't do)
| Ultrace |
Well, technically against their characters not the players themselves. That said, I could see being uncomfortable using it for that reason. Maybe instead have serpentfolk call humans "softskins" or "greasebags" (referring to how they sweat, which I assume snake people don't do)
True, it would be used against the characters, but in a roleplaying scenario, where two people are having a conversation where this occurs. In most cases, it probably wouldn't be an issue, but there's some where I could imagine that, even when leveled against a character of a race that doesn't exist in our world, it could evoke some unpleasant feelings. It's the same reason I wouldn't necessarily strive for a conversation about how to commit gender-oriented slurs or things like sexual assault. Sure, it's just a character in a game, but there are real people behind those pieces of paper and for some the parallels can be rather uncomfortable.
(All that having been said, as GM, know your table. Keep an eye out for how much is too much and talk to players when necessary.)
| lemeres |
What are some good fictional racial slurs for Pathfinder races? I could definitely see some reptilian or amphibian humanoids (such a serpentfolk and boggards) calling the more human-like humanoid races "apes" or "monkeys".
"Pale Goblins"
...I think this is a rather apt description of humans in setting. One of their primary advantages as a race is that they are fast reproducing. Most are relatively 'weak' and 'short lived', but they can produce enough to form a 'horde' (army) that can steamroll over most threats.
Those disadvantages are relative, of course. Compared to a boggard, humans are about as weak as a goblin. And many common races like elves or dwarves seem them as shortlived.
...but that advantage is definitely not relative. A large number of mechanics relate to what humans are willing to romance. Humans are known for cross breeding with EVERYTHING. Just look at sorcerer blood lines. Elves? Dragons? Demons? Angels? Plants? FIRE?!
| Sam Phelan Customer Service Representative |
Removed some posts. Thread is locked.
Topics such as this broach real world sensitivities we need to be mindful of. Even the first post of this thread treads into territory that mimics hurtful and unacceptable real-life behavior and doesn't show deference for the sensitivities of the topic. Some of the posters above explained well the carefulness and consideration that is required to approach, or choose not to approach, these topics at the gaming table. For your own gaming groups, this may be a topic which has some flexibility, and others will have reasons we need to respect for shying away from discussions such as this. For our forum community, I feel it is best to leave the replies this has currently accumulated, recognize that racial slurs, even in fantasy, can be harmful and formidable to navigate as a story telling device, and leave the thread locked.