Ways to cast spells not on class spell-lists

[halig feax]

Playing a RotRL campaign with a party of five, and we're all 8th level. I play a human arcanist. One of our newer members, a samsaran mesmerist, can't recall some of the memories from his past lives. I had an idea of a way to help him remember, but the spell needed to do so is personal only and not on his spell-list --hypercognition.

Is there a way for him to cast a 4th level spell not on his spell-list?

So far the only way I've thought of is to put the spell in a wand. However my character doesn't have Craft Wand, so it would be a protracted strategy: teaching the spell to a person who can craft wands; pay them to craft the wand; the samsaran uses the wand to cast the spell on himself.

Considering the time and money, that's not an attractive strategy because he probably will only need to cast the spell once --and crafting a 4th level wand with 50 charges is absolute overkill for role play.

Thanks for your interest and help.

[LordKailas]

Will the DM allow you to craft or commission a custom magic item?

You could make something like the following

Helm of Deep Thought

Aura faint divination; CL 7th; Slot head; Price 1,440 gp; Weight 3 lbs.

DESCRIPTION

This copper helm is etched with swirling lines that seem to shimmer and shift. The helm must be worn for 24 hours in order to attune its self to the wearer before it can be used. Once the attuned the wearer may use hypercognition as per the spell once per week upon command.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Wondrous Item, hypercognition; Cost 720 gp.

[Lelomenia]

Why not a scroll instead of wand? You need umd either way.

[blahpers]

Just buy the wand.

[halig feax]

LordKailas wrote:

Will the DM allow you to craft or commission a custom magic item?

You could make something like the following

Helm of Deep Thought

Aura faint divination; CL 7th; Slot head; Price 1,440 gp; Weight 3 lbs.

DESCRIPTION

This copper helm is etched with swirling lines that seem to shimmer and shift. The helm must be worn for 24 hours in order to attune its self to the wearer before it can be used. Once the attuned the wearer may use hypercognition as per the spell once per week upon command.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Wondrous Item, hypercognition; Cost 720 gp.

The custom magic item is a cool idea, but my GM is a unlikely to allow custom magic item creation (I've tried before with creating weaker items than this).

I'll bring it up to him though, as he has a fondness for the weirdness that are samsarans. Maybe he'll go for it.

Lelomenia wrote:

Why not a scroll instead of wand? You need umd either way.

Scroll is a good option. Just not entirely sure on how the rules work for arcane casters trying to cast arcane spells not on their list. The only rules I've found in the Core Rulebook say that casters with the spell on their list can use the scrolls, unless not high enough level which requires a check. Couldn't find anything else.

blahpers wrote:

Just buy the wand.

Cool.

[Lelomenia]

If the spell isn’t on your list, you need to use Use Magic Device. That’s true for both wands and scrolls. The DC is more or less 27 for the scroll vs. 20 to use the wand, but a scroll is 20 times cheaper. Also depends on what class you are allowed to buy it as; hypercognition is on different lists at different levels, PFS standard is to go as Wizard first, where it’s a 4th with CL 7, but it would be cheaper if you were allowed to buy it from a different class.

[halig feax]

Lelomenia wrote:

If the spell isn’t on your list, you need to use Use Magic Device. That’s true for both wands and scrolls. The DC is more or less 27 for the scroll vs. 20 to use the wand, but a scroll is 20 times cheaper. Also depends on what class you are allowed to buy it as; hypercognition is on different lists at different levels, PFS standard is to go as Wizard first, where it’s a 4th with CL 7, but it would be cheaper if you were allowed to buy it from a different class.

That makes sense, UMD-wise. Hypercognition comes out of Occult Adventures, so it's pretty rare to find available for purchase. Perhaps I could teach it to a wizard in a city in exchange for a scroll of it.

[Cevah]

While expensive (50,000), a Ring of Spell Storing solves the issue without UMD, and is quite useful afterwards.

EDIT:
The wand, however, is 42,000 12,000. [Medium and Psychic get it as a 2nd level spell at CL 4.]

A scroll, would then be UMB 24, and cost 200.

/cevah