About to start Whispering Tyrant AP, looking for builds that would be fun to play. Anything from paizo is up for grabs
The players don't know what each other picked, so I'm not trying to fill a need. I'm perfectly alright leaning into the evil portion of this party, ita been so long since I build a PC I don't know what to go for. Race is also up for grabs if there is something aside from human that I should be. Help a normally DM finally player again out?
Drow Clerics are sick just because of the flavor, so that's what I'd recommend for race. If you can't be Drow, humans are awesome because of the extra feat. What style of Cleric do you want to be (focused on channeling negative energy, or focused on casting offensive spells, or melee focused? reach build? mix of everything?)? Are you thinking of the Asmodean Advocate archetype or a different archetype (or no archetype?)?
Also, Pt buy? Domain preferences? Asmodeus is particularly fond of Trickery, so if you're trying to stay thematic I would at least choose one of my domains as Trickery. Though, if you choose the Asmodean Advocate archetype, you don't get a 2nd domain and you're forced to take Trickery.
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I mean, are you gonna pass the chance to be an Asmodean Advocate?
I mean, are you gonna pass the chance to be an Asmodean Advocate?
THAT SOUNDS AWESOME. How have I never seen that before , what book is that from? We rolled for stats, 10, 13, 14, 13, 18, 15. So pretty good rolls. Are there any other archetypes? Aside from Drow being cool, any particular reason that would be good?
Asmodean Advocate is from Dirty Tricks' Handbook.
Lawspeaker is also a fun archetype for Asmodeus worshippers if you want to stick to the more law-based things, but it doesn't stack with Advocate.
Appeaser is also nice if you want to channel positive and negative energy both.
As for race, consider Kobolds! Their FCB grants them extra Channel Energy damage against DEX-denied enemies, so it's pretty fun to use it to move invisibly and drop sauced-up Channel bombs.
THAT SOUNDS AWESOME. How have I never seen that before , what book is that from? We rolled for stats, 10, 13, 14, 13, 18, 15. So pretty good rolls. Are there any other archetypes? Aside from Drow being cool, any particular reason that would be good?I mean, are you gonna pass the chance to be an Asmodean Advocate?
Nah, it's just for flavor. Asmodeus is evil AF, Drow are evil AF, it just seems like a happy marriage waiting to happen. The Spell Resistance 6 + your level is nice though.
You should get Reach Spell for a Metamagic Feat though, so you can make your Inflict spells into Close, Med, or Long range spells :D
That would be nice, inflict from across the room, very cool. I think either Human, Tiefling, Dhampir or Drow for the race. All have a certain appeal.
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Inflict spells aren't super powerful in terms of raw damage, but their real power comes from being able to spontaneously cast them.
Another thing you should consider getting is the Dreamed Secrets feat for your lvl 13 feat. You can pick up two Wiz spells per day and you can do a lot of dmg with that. Limited Wish, Disintegrate, Contingency, Firesnake, Flesh to Stone, whatever your dark little Asmodeus-worshiping heart desires :)
Edit: Check these out too and see if any of those sound like fun. Channeling Feats
I'd recommend Siphon Channel and Channel Discord. You could go into a room with Invisibility active and just blow up an entire room and get a bunch of Temp HP while you're at it :D Perfect for a Trickery Priest of Asmodeus! MUAHAHA n stuff
I do like that channel discord, I know in pathfinder Asmodeus isn't listed as a demon lord, but I'm sure I can convince the DM that it makes sense.
After reading that list, I think Conversion Channel would be pretty in flavor with a corrupting cleric. I hadn't even thought of higher level stuff. I don't know if I can convince my DM that Asmodeus fulfills the Prerequisites: Ability to cast divine spells, caster level 7th, worshiper of a Great Old One or Outer God.
I mean it can't hurt to ask! Especially if no one has an arcane caster around that time, would help with the craziness.
I'm not sure if you mean Carrion Crown or Tyrant's Grasp, but either way, I imagine undead will be a frequent enemy. Putting a lot behind channel energy, only to have it be useless half the time would suck. However, you could do a pretty nice melee or general spellcaster. An imp to give out buffs via wand is pretty nice, and the trickery spell-list and abilities could favor either.
I'm not sure if you mean Carrion Crown or Tyrant's Grasp, but either way, I imagine undead will be a frequent enemy. Putting a lot behind channel energy, only to have it be useless half the time would suck. However, you could do a pretty nice melee or general spellcaster. An imp to give out buffs via wand is pretty nice, and the trickery spell-list and abilities could favor either.
Tyrant's Grasp!
since the first book is out, we're jumping right into this AP full force.
I do like that channel discord, I know in pathfinder Asmodeus isn't listed as a demon lord, but I'm sure I can convince the DM that it makes sense.
After reading that list, I think Conversion Channel would be pretty in flavor with a corrupting cleric. I hadn't even thought of higher level stuff. I don't know if I can convince my DM that Asmodeus fulfills the Prerequisites: Ability to cast divine spells, caster level 7th, worshiper of a Great Old One or Outer God.
I mean it can't hurt to ask! Especially if no one has an arcane caster around that time, would help with the craziness.
If you can't get that, looking into Channeling Variance and Extra Variance feats.
If you are going Asmodean Advocate, I heartily recommend the Ultimate Lawyer build link
If the GM (and you) lean towards social skills and game style... just, wow.
I did one using the link as my guide (not verbatim) and was rocking a +10 Sense Motive, +14 Diplomacy and +17 Bluff straightaway at first level.
Remember to pump Linguistics, that's the skill used for forgery (and detecting forgeries) in contracts.
Would this campaign go on long enough for Spellcasting Contracts to be relevant?
While the exact conversion of a 5/7/9 lvl spell slot to some low level spell slots is not great... this still means that you can open up some action economy by giving the martial characters a few spells.
It is also flavorful, since it means that you can bind other party members with contracts that tempts them with a promise of power, and forces them to abide by the contract if they wish to keep that power.
Would this campaign go on long enough for Spellcasting Contracts to be relevant?
While the exact conversion of a 5/7/9 lvl spell slot to some low level spell slots is not great... this still means that you can open up some action economy by giving the martial characters a few spells.
It is also flavorful, since it means that you can bind other party members with contracts that tempts them with a promise of power, and forces them to abide by the contract if they wish to keep that power.
Whoa, I have never seen that spell and that is flavorful as hell. I will be using that for sure!
Oh yes... forgot... the contract also gives the cleric a profane bonus to attacks/saves/checks that that is equal to the highest spell given. So even if the spells given to the other character are 'meh', you get a rather nice buff in return for the slot.
That is siiiiiiick!