Medium and seance boon?

[necromental]

Does the medium get the bonus of Shared Seance?

[Firebug]

I don't think it matters, since at level 1 they already get the benefit of the Seance boon. If they do benefit from Shared Seance, it would be gaining the benefit of the same untyped source twice which wouldn't stack.

For example, a level 1 medium channeling champion would gain the +1 to Attack/Fort/etc (spirit bonus) and the +2 to non-spell damage rolls (seance boon). At level 2, the same medium would be able to share his seance boon (+2 to non-spell damage rolls) with his allies if they participate. Since for most things you are considered your own ally, you would also gain the benefit of the shared seance, but since you already have the benefit of the seance boon it doesn't stack.

[Jeff Merola]

So, you're slightly confused. The Medium doesn't get the bonus of Shared Seance, because that class feature only applies to their allies, not themselves. But they do get the seance boon anyway, because the Spirit class feature says they do.

[Firebug]

Jeff Merola wrote:

So, you're slightly confused. The Medium doesn't get the bonus of Shared Seance, because that class feature only applies to their allies, not themselves. But they do get the seance boon anyway, because the Spirit class feature says they do.

And you may have forgotten the FAQ about allies.

Ally FAQ wrote:

Ally: Do you count as your own ally?

You count as your own ally unless otherwise stated or if doing so would make no sense or be impossible. Thus, "your allies" almost always means the same as "you and your allies."

Shared Seance wrote:

Shared Seance (Su): At 2nd level, a medium can share his channeled spirit’s aid with his allies. All allies who participate in the medium’s seance gain the channeled spirit’s seance boon for 24 hours.

Sub in "You and your allies" for "his allies" and "All allies" and you are back to my first comment about the issue being not stacking instead of whether it applies or not.

[Jeff Merola]

Firebug wrote:

Jeff Merola wrote:

So, you're slightly confused. The Medium doesn't get the bonus of Shared Seance, because that class feature only applies to their allies, not themselves. But they do get the seance boon anyway, because the Spirit class feature says they do.

And you may have forgotten the FAQ about allies.

Ally FAQ wrote:

Ally: Do you count as your own ally?

You count as your own ally unless otherwise stated or if doing so would make no sense or be impossible. Thus, "your allies" almost always means the same as "you and your allies."

Shared Seance wrote:

Shared Seance (Su): At 2nd level, a medium can share his channeled spirit’s aid with his allies. All allies who participate in the medium’s seance gain the channeled spirit’s seance boon for 24 hours.

Sub in "You and your allies" for "his allies" and "All allies" and you are back to my first comment about the issue being not stacking instead of whether it applies or not.

And you have forgotten the "if doing so would make no sense or be impossible" line in that FAQ. The ability is "Shared Seance" and is sharing a bonus you already get. Thus it falls to the "would make no sense" part to consider you your own ally for the purposes of this ability.