Pounce + Rake + Grappled?


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Aloah all together,
im just curious: if a leopard use charge +pounce to attack 5 times (bite, claw, claw, rake, rake), is the order set? Or could he go claw, rake, bite, claw, rake? Since all attacks have the same attack bonus and are natural attacks, I could not find an answer.. Especially if the bite attack hits and triggers the grapple attack, which give the leopard the grappled condition, so a - 2 penalty to all attacks, it would be better to use the bite at the end.

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That's why people say "claw, claw, bite" with natural attacks


Garzag wrote:

Aloah all together,

im just curious: if a leopard use charge +pounce to attack 5 times (bite, claw, claw, rake, rake), is the order set? Or could he go claw, rake, bite, claw, rake? Since all attacks have the same attack bonus and are natural attacks, I could not find an answer.. Especially if the bite attack hits and triggers the grapple attack, which give the leopard the grappled condition, so a - 2 penalty to all attacks, it would be better to use the bite at the end.

Tangent; If the grapple succeeds the target takes a -2 penalty to AC also.

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DM Livgin wrote:
Garzag wrote:

Aloah all together,

im just curious: if a leopard use charge +pounce to attack 5 times (bite, claw, claw, rake, rake), is the order set? Or could he go claw, rake, bite, claw, rake? Since all attacks have the same attack bonus and are natural attacks, I could not find an answer.. Especially if the bite attack hits and triggers the grapple attack, which give the leopard the grappled condition, so a - 2 penalty to all attacks, it would be better to use the bite at the end.
Tangent; If the grapple succeeds the target takes a -2 penalty to AC also.

Yep. The order is primarily only going to matter if you're using Weapon Finesse and/or Agile Maneuvers (in which case you probably want to use the bite last since your attack penalties will exceed the target's defense penalties).

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